iOcean have published Antutu benchmarks giving us a rough glimpse at the potential of their 64bit M6752 ‘Rock’ smartphone.
iOcean officially unveiled the M6752 ‘Rock’ earlier this month and revealed the phone, their first 64bit model, has the powerful new Mediatek MT6752 chipset. The MT6752 has been found in plenty of exciting new phones this year, it boasts 64bit, 8-core architecture and dual SIM 4G LTE support.
iOcean also revealed that they had been very generous with the RAM on the M6752 ‘Rock’ with a nice 3GB to ensure plenty of memory is available for gaming and background applications.
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With that set up running a 5.5-inch 1920 x 1080 display on Android 4.4, how are the benchmarks looking? The answer is very good with an Antutu score posted today of 40,492! With the promised Lollipop update and more optimizations we can expect that score to increase too.
We are still waiting on the details of where and when we can actually buy the iOcean M6752 ‘Rock’, and pricing is yet to be confirmed. Let’s hope it is competitive and iOcean could have a JiaYu S3 slayer on their hands.
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front side looks so ugly..
I saw some pictures here. Not that bad.
https://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/06/iocean-m6752-rock-officially-launched-full-specs/
This phone looks almost like me Old zopo zp810.
LoL, zopo810 looks almost like the Old iphone3G
even my jiayu G4S (mt6592) with custom kernel can get 34000. 40000 is not a ‘rock’ score.
40000 is well above 34000, and I’m guessing it doesn’t even have a custom kernel. Plus, Lollipop will probably give it an advantage.
yeah lollipop will give +4000 i think because of 64 bit i forgot that
Dat uselessly big lower bezel…
Problably for menu/home/back buttons that are in a test version onscreen buttons?
Of not and the retail version has those onscreen buttons, its a real shame on them.
They said in Facebook they make the virtual icon to give more clear space to ensure better signal. The antenna is at bottom.
Tell them to learn from virtually every other manufacturer who managed to get good signal without sacrificing so much space.
Hey, it’s the Rock.
So basically, the 6595m in a zp999 giving an AnTuTu score 46,785 is better than Mediateks new 64-bit OctaCore processor?
I thought it was supposed to be an upgrade on the 6595?
Wasn’t the 6595 meant to be a flagship chipset?
You’re mistaking that with the upcoming MT6795
front side looks so ugly..
I saw some pictures here. Not that bad.
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/06/iocean-m6752-rock-officially-launched-full-specs/
This phone looks almost like me Old zopo zp810.
LoL, zopo810 looks almost like the Old iphone3G
so many phones, so little money…
So little that’s actually worth the money.
even my jiayu G4S (mt6592) with custom kernel can get 34000. 40000 is not a ‘rock’ score.
40000 is well above 34000, and I’m guessing it doesn’t even have a custom kernel. Plus, Lollipop will probably give it an advantage.
yeah lollipop will give +4000 i think because of 64 bit i forgot that
Dat uselessly big lower bezel…
Problably for menu/home/back buttons that are in a test version onscreen buttons?
Of not and the retail version has those onscreen buttons, its a real shame on them.
They said in Facebook they make the virtual icon to give more clear space to ensure better signal. The antenna is at bottom.
Tell them to learn from virtually every other manufacturer who managed to get good signal without sacrificing so much space.
Hey, it’s the Rock.
So basically, the 6595m in a zp999 giving an AnTuTu score 46,785 is better than Mediateks new 64-bit OctaCore processor?
I thought it was supposed to be an upgrade on the 6595?
Wasn’t the 6595 meant to be a flagship chipset?
You’re mistaking that with the upcoming MT6795
so many phones, so little money…
So little that’s actually worth the money.
ugly phone
ugly phone
what about the GPS, will it have GLONASS ?
and what about NFC, bigger battery- must things.
2GB or 3GB, its the same for the regular person.
specs:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/5a3531d9
5.5′ with 2,300mAh battery- its very very low for 1080X1920 screen.
it has Glonass and beidou for the GPS.
with NFC.
I want MT6795 phones and smaller body. 4.7 inches or less. 4.5 is ideal. i do not want to carry a TV sized phone in my pocket (if can fit in there)….
I’m waiting for MT6795 phones too, but with a decent 5.5-6 inch screen, hopefully they will be more plentiful than the 6595 phones, whatever happened to them??
The market is full of big size phones. I am sure very soon you will see your dream phone. But it will last short time. Maybe 2016-2017 phone will be minimum 6-7 inches. 2017-2018 minimum 7-8 inches. 2018-2019 minimum 9-10 inches. and about 2030 minimum 58-60 inches. I do not expect my dream to come true. When companies make mini flagships they mean 4.7-5 inches. Next year mini will be 5-5.5 inches. I want a phone, not tablet, not a TV. ANYNONE CAN READ THIS ?
yeah, either for me
I miss my 4,3″ Xiaomi Mi2
5.5 inch phone, not that bad. It depends. Some people just like to take photos by their ipad. IMO that is really stupid. LOL
Mediatek is doing great lately, they definitely deserved the awards won last year
But still I don’t get what happened to their 6595: I mean, it has been defined as the monster of the house but so far only 2 or 3 phone used that SoC. What’s the real deal with it? Anyone?
because there is no point in launching phones with 32 bit now ( marketing )..
Mt6795 is about to launch and it will be the real powerhouse .. it’s the successor of Mt6595 ..
6595 was very late to the maket
So it was just late, I couldn’t understand why so much effort on that SoC that has barely been sold.
atleast that SOC sold and was available in a few phones..
last year Mediatek rolled out Mt6588 along with 6592
that mt6588 never made it into phones..
6588? Never heard of it, any link to this SoC?
yeah sure
https://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/20/quad-core-mediatek-mt6588-vs-mt6589t/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaTek
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a6588&c=mediatek_mt6588
http://pinoyscreencast.net/mediatek-2/mediatek-new-soc-mt6588-future-budget-choice-quad-core-smartphones/
Actually it’s expensive probably cause of die size. MT6795 probably will be cheaper thanks to weaker Cortex-A53 cores.
A bit weaker single thread performance, a lot stronger multi thread performance, considering octacore benchmark performance. Will have devastating Antutu scores. In the real world performance will be a bit weaker than MT6595. A bit stronger GPU. Magic word 64-bit. And cheaper.
With MT6795 prices will be closer to MT6752 devices IMO.
hi , are you assuming it to be 8 x cortex A53 ? Mediatek hasn’t said anything what cores they are using..
give a read to my comments in this thread
https://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/12/mediateks-64bit-chips-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-mt6795-mt6752-and-mt6732/
6795 should end being priced same as 6595… since it most likely will use cortex A57 cores as well..
6595 – 4 x A7 + 4x A17
6795 – 4x A53 + 4 x A57
Yes, I do. Mediatek didn’t revealed it’s configuration either way.
When I first heard about MT6795, would be a successor to MT6595 and company’s next generation premium SoC, I was assumed too it should be a big.LITTLE quad Cortex-A57 + quad Cortex-A53 just like you did.
I read your comment now and I have to say you have a point. It make sense. Actually I was thought same thing just like I said. MT6795 should have really faster than MT6595.
But lately I reconsidered it. Cortex-A53 cores nearly strong as Qualcomm’s Krait cores.
MT6795’s 2.2GHz Cortex-A53 single thread Geekbench score easily will be over than 1000. MT6595’s 2.2GHz Cortex-A17 cores single thread scores are closer to 1200.
But MT6795’s multithread Geekbench 3 scores should be around 5000 considering MT6752’s scores. While MT6595’s being under 4000.
Also MT6795’s Antutu scores could have reach up to 60.000.
Single thread performance matters and apps didn’t utilize octacore, but it has a marketing value.
You see Chinese vendors didn’t widespreadly adopted MT6595. So despite being a bit slower in the real world performance, supposedly being cheaper with better scores at certain benchmarks, with had magic word “64-bit” an octacore Cortex-A53 could be more successful.
hi , you make some good points .. there were additional reasons that i did not write it in those comments ..
1) the reason i don’t think that 8x cortex A53 is because they already have that chip in the form of Mt6752
it doesn’t make sense at all to have slightly overclocked chip having a totally different name .. they use turbo for that like eg- 6589 and 6589T , or some slight naming scheme difference like 6732 and 6735 ( both have different GPU)
2) Mediatek has distributed its products in 3 classes
mainstream – 6732
Super Mid – 6752
Premium – 6795
if the Cpu difference is this small i don’t think they would create a 3rd category of product and charge more for this small difference .. 6595 was a premium product for power users, while 6592 was not ..
3) with 6595 and 6795 mediatek is targeting High end snapdragon chips as it is expanding To USA .. low and Mid range doesn’t make much mark in USA , since people buy phones on Contract .. 8 x cortex A53 won’t be able to reach scores of SD810.. even if it is unable to make a mark in USA , it is eyeing for high end flagships..
rumor says that htc will be using 6795 in its flagship phone HIMA for china market.. whether it works out or not only time can tell, but the objective of that chip is to provide high end performance at cheaper price than snapdragon
4) Antutu v5.6 i think is giving way higher scores than previous antutu versions..
Snapdragon 805 is scoring 50,000 on Antutu v5.6 , on version 4 it was around 39,000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvIC6nvDWF0
and last i remember 6595 was beating Snapdragon 805 easily .. so 6595 scores on antutu v5.6 should be around 54,000.. compare that with 6752’s 40,000
if 6795 is 8 x cortex A53 it won’t go more than 45,000 at 2.2ghz…
i too was surprised by this .. when i saw 6732 scoring 32,000 on antutu , while snapdragon 410 only scored 18,000-19,000 ( antutu 4)..
the difference shouldn’t be that big even though 6732 is ahead in every department than Sd 410 ..
ahh found antutu v5.6 score for 6595 .. same as i thought
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/36755-meizu-mx-4-now-scores-53409http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/36755-meizu-mx-4-now-scores-53409
I don’t think Mediatek targets USA market yet. Their natural niche China right now.
Rumor about HTC Hima with MT6795 probably false. Yes HTC release some variants with Mediatek chips China only, but only with Mediatek and Qualcomm comparable counterparts.
We are mostly talking about MT6795’s CPU cores but the chip’s GPU certainly underclassed against Snapdragon 810. At best it’s GPU will be roughly equal to weakest Snapdragon 800’s. So even the case it came with Cortex-A57 cores it wouldn’t be really comparable to Snapdragon 810. Also there are other differences like supported RAM bandwith and internal storage speeds which MT6795 will be way below Snapdragon 810.
We are given another piece of information about MT6795 and it will be manufactured at 28nm node. Exynos 5433 manufactured Samsung’s own 20nm process and Snapdragon will be manufactured TSMC’s 20nm process.
As well I know Mediatek chips usually manufacturing by TSMC. If they are manufactured Cortex-A57 cores 28nm and clocked it at 2.2GHz probably it needs fans for cooling. Hypothetically it’s heating would be similar a chip contains Cortex-A57 cores manufactured at 20nm and clocked to 2.9GHz.
Yet it’s not impossible. If I’m not wrong these manufacturing nodes all are categorized as bulk CMOS.
Entirely different transistor architechture called FD-SOI offers 20nm CMOS performance equivalent or even better at 28nm and it’s cost closer to 28nm CMOS. Catch is whether manufacturer offers it to their customers and customers willing to bet on that new and not proven on the field process.
Lets return MT6752 and MT6795.
Again I have to say I was thought same thing. Would be a turbo edition of MT6752 clocked at 2GHz. MT6795 being clocked to 2.2GHz with same cores will be just slightly superior. IMO it wouldn’t be enough and wouldn’t make sense.
After all we don’t see any MT6752T clocked to 2GHz around. There is a gap between 1.7GHz and 2.2GHz. Maybe they intentionally abort it for that reason.
Antutu benchmark isn’t a dedicated benchmark for specific tasks. For example Geekbench is a CPU benchmark and GFXBench is a GPU benchmark. Antutu gave us a bundle. I didn’t delved recent version it but older versions was favored CPU scores especially multicore. Because of that old MT6592’s Antutu scores given us false impressions.
Considering MT6595’s scores final version still favors octacore CPU’s though for commenting further on that subject I have to survey different chips’ Antutu score details.
check this out
https://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/19/leaked-roadmap-reveals-mt6795-details-shows-new-20nm-chip-making/
i know antutu is a 3rd class benchmark but most chinese Oem love antutu as it is most popular
what about the GPS, will it have GLONASS ?
and what about NFC, bigger battery- must things.
2GB or 3GB, its the same for the regular person.
specs:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/5a3531d9
5.5′ with 2,300mAh battery- its very very low for 1080X1920 screen.
it has Glonass and beidou for the GPS.
with NFC.
I want MT6795 phones and smaller body. 4.7 inches or less. 4.5 is ideal. i do not want to carry a TV sized phone in my pocket (if can fit in there)….
I’m waiting for MT6795 phones too, but with a decent 5.5-6 inch screen, hopefully they will be more plentiful than the 6595 phones, whatever happened to them??
The market is full of big size phones. I am sure very soon you will see your dream phone. But it will last short time. Maybe 2016-2017 phone will be minimum 6-7 inches. 2017-2018 minimum 7-8 inches. 2018-2019 minimum 9-10 inches. and about 2030 minimum 58-60 inches. I do not expect my dream to come true. When companies make mini flagships they mean 4.7-5 inches. Next year mini will be 5-5.5 inches. I want a phone, not tablet, not a TV. ANYNONE CAN READ THIS ?
yeah, either for me
I miss my 4,3″ Xiaomi Mi2
5.5 inch phone, not that bad. It depends. Some people just like to take photos by their ipad. IMO that is really stupid. LOL
Mediatek is doing great lately, they definitely deserved the awards won last year
But still I don’t get what happened to their 6595: I mean, it has been defined as the monster of the house but so far only 2 or 3 phone used that SoC. What’s the real deal with it? Anyone?
because there is no point in launching phones with 32 bit now ( marketing )..
Mt6795 is about to launch and it will be the real powerhouse .. it’s the successor of Mt6595 ..
6595 was very late to the maket
So it was just late, I couldn’t understand why so much effort on that SoC that has barely been sold.
atleast that SOC sold and was available in a few phones..
last year Mediatek rolled out Mt6588 along with 6592
that mt6588 never made it into phones..
Actually it’s expensive probably cause of die size. MT6795 probably will be cheaper thanks to weaker Cortex-A53 cores.
A bit weaker single thread performance, a lot stronger multi thread performance, considering octacore benchmark performance. Will have devastating Antutu scores. In the real world performance will be a bit weaker than MT6595. A bit stronger GPU. Magic word 64-bit. And cheaper.
With MT6795 prices will be closer to MT6752 devices IMO.
hi , are you assuming it to be 8 x cortex A53 ? Mediatek hasn’t said anything what cores they are using..
give a read to my comments in this thread
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/12/mediateks-64bit-chips-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-mt6795-mt6752-and-mt6732/
6795 should end being priced same as 6595… since it most likely will use cortex A57 cores as well..
6595 – 4 x A7 + 4x A17
6795 – 4x A53 + 4 x A57
6588? Never heard of it, any link to this SoC?
yeah sure
http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/20/quad-core-mediatek-mt6588-vs-mt6589t/
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a6588&c=mediatek_mt6588
http://pinoyscreencast.net/mediatek-2/mediatek-new-soc-mt6588-future-budget-choice-quad-core-smartphones/
Yes, I do. Mediatek didn’t revealed it’s configuration either way.
When I first heard about MT6795, would be a successor to MT6595 and company’s next generation premium SoC, I was assumed too it should be a big.LITTLE quad Cortex-A57 + quad Cortex-A53 just like you did.
I read your comment now and I have to say you have a point. It make sense. Actually I was thought same thing just like I said. MT6795 should have really faster than MT6595.
But lately I reconsidered it. Cortex-A53 cores nearly strong as Qualcomm’s Krait cores.
MT6795’s 2.2GHz Cortex-A53 single thread Geekbench score easily will be over than 1000. MT6595’s 2.2GHz Cortex-A17 cores single thread scores are closer to 1200.
But MT6795’s multithread Geekbench 3 scores should be around 5000 considering MT6752’s scores. While MT6595’s being under 4000.
Also MT6795’s Antutu scores could have reach up to 60.000.
Single thread performance matters and apps didn’t utilize octacore, but it has a marketing value.
You see Chinese vendors didn’t widespreadly adopted MT6595. So despite being a bit slower in the real world performance, supposedly being cheaper with better scores at certain benchmarks, with had magic word “64-bit” an octacore Cortex-A53 could be more successful.
hi , you make some good points .. there were additional reasons that i did not write it in those comments ..
1) the reason i don’t think that 8x cortex A53 is because they already have that chip in the form of Mt6752
it doesn’t make sense at all to have slightly overclocked chip having a totally different name .. they use turbo for that like eg- 6589 and 6589T , or some slight naming scheme difference like 6732 and 6735 ( both have different GPU)
2) Mediatek has distributed its products in 3 classes
mainstream – 6732
Super Mid – 6752
Premium – 6795
if the Cpu difference is this small i don’t think they would create a 3rd category of product and charge more for this small difference .. 6595 was a premium product for power users, while 6592 was not ..
3) with 6595 and 6795 mediatek is targeting High end snapdragon chips as it is expanding To USA .. low and Mid range doesn’t make much mark in USA , since people buy phones on Contract .. 8 x cortex A53 won’t be able to reach scores of SD810.. even if it is unable to make a mark in USA , it is eyeing for high end flagships..
rumor says that htc will be using 6795 in its flagship phone HIMA for china market.. whether it works out or not only time can tell, but the objective of that chip is to provide high end performance at cheaper price than snapdragon
4) Antutu v5.6 i think is giving way higher scores than previous antutu versions..
Snapdragon 805 is scoring 50,000 on Antutu v5.6 , on version 4 it was around 39,000
and last i remember 6595 was beating Snapdragon 805 easily .. so 6595 scores on antutu v5.6 should be around 54,000.. compare that with 6752’s 40,000
if 6795 is 8 x cortex A53 it won’t go more than 45,000 at 2.2ghz…
i too was surprised by this .. when i saw 6732 scoring 32,000 on antutu , while snapdragon 410 only scored 18,000-19,000 ( antutu 4)..
the difference shouldn’t be that big even though 6732 is ahead in every department than Sd 410 ..
ahh found antutu v5.6 score for 6595 .. same as i thought
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/36755-meizu-mx-4-now-scores-53409http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/36755-meizu-mx-4-now-scores-53409
I don’t think Mediatek targets USA market yet. Their natural niche China right now.
Rumor about HTC Hima with MT6795 probably false. Yes HTC release some variants with Mediatek chips China only, but only with Mediatek and Qualcomm comparable counterparts.
We are mostly talking about MT6795’s CPU cores but the chip’s GPU certainly underclassed against Snapdragon 810. At best it’s GPU will be roughly equal to weakest Snapdragon 800’s. So even the case it came with Cortex-A57 cores it wouldn’t be really comparable to Snapdragon 810. Also there are other differences like supported RAM bandwith and internal storage speeds which MT6795 will be way below Snapdragon 810.
We are given another piece of information about MT6795 and it will be manufactured at 28nm node. Exynos 5433 manufactured Samsung’s own 20nm process and Snapdragon will be manufactured TSMC’s 20nm process.
As well I know Mediatek chips usually manufacturing by TSMC. If they are manufactured Cortex-A57 cores 28nm and clocked it at 2.2GHz probably it needs fans for cooling. Hypothetically it’s heating would be similar a chip contains Cortex-A57 cores manufactured at 20nm and clocked to 2.9GHz.
Yet it’s not impossible. If I’m not wrong these manufacturing nodes all are categorized as bulk CMOS.
Entirely different transistor architechture called FD-SOI offers 20nm CMOS performance equivalent or even better at 28nm and it’s cost closer to 28nm CMOS. Catch is whether manufacturer offers it to their customers and customers willing to bet on that new and not proven on the field process.
Lets return MT6752 and MT6795.
Again I have to say I was thought same thing. Would be a turbo edition of MT6752 clocked at 2GHz. MT6795 being clocked to 2.2GHz with same cores will be just slightly superior. IMO it wouldn’t be enough and wouldn’t make sense.
After all we don’t see any MT6752T clocked to 2GHz around. There is a gap between 1.7GHz and 2.2GHz. Maybe they intentionally abort it for that reason.
Antutu benchmark isn’t a dedicated benchmark for specific tasks. For example Geekbench is a CPU benchmark and GFXBench is a GPU benchmark. Antutu gave us a bundle. I didn’t delved recent version it but older versions was favored CPU scores especially multicore. Because of that old MT6592’s Antutu scores given us false impressions.
Considering MT6595’s scores final version still favors octacore CPU’s though for commenting further on that subject I have to survey different chips’ Antutu score details.
check this out
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/01/19/leaked-roadmap-reveals-mt6795-details-shows-new-20nm-chip-making/
i know antutu is a 3rd class benchmark but most chinese Oem love antutu as it is most popular
doesn’t look too bad really
doesn’t look too bad really
The question is Snapdragon 800 vs mt6752
MTK6752 by difference.
why? qualcomm is much more popular, has more points in geeksbench etc.
The question is Snapdragon 800 vs mt6752
MTK6752 by difference.
why? qualcomm is much more popular, has more points in geeksbench etc.