Flagships don’t enjoy the life they did a few years back; from a couple of years to a year, and we’re almost looking at bi-yearly flagships from OEMs now… especially from those that are very keen on making it big (some clearly overdo that *cough* Elephone *cough*).
Meizu’s MX4 was quite a good phone for its time with the MT6595 SoC and decent hardware… so was the MX4 Pro. However for whatever reasons, the MX4 is already looking at their replacement in the MX5, while the MX4 Pro is now discontinued.
The Meizu MX5 was finally announced today, and from what it looks like, its going to be a force to reckon with. The MX5 will have a 5.5-inch 1920 x 1080p Super AMOLED panel (also means that Meizu no more ship with non-standard aspect ratios), and will be powered by the super impressive MediaTek Helio X10 that we also saw on the LeTV Le 1 X600. With the impressive processor, the phone will have 3GB of RAM.
Needless to say, being a 2015 flagship, the MX5 will feature fingerprint security. Meizu seem to have taken cue from Apple and will be integrating their payments system with the fingerprint security feature… it’ll probably be restricted only to China though; time will tell.
The MX5 will also support dual 4G SIMs, both of which will have to be nano SIMs. Meizu also proudly showed off the AnTuTu score that the phone manages — over 53,000 points.
It had been learnt through leaks and rumours previously that the MX5 would have a full metal jacket and will support fast charging (aka mCharge). The MX5 will charge from 0% to 50% in just 30 minutes, and that’s pretty cool considering it’ll have a 3150mAh battery.
The 20.7 mega-pixel rear camera on the MX5 will have a 1/2.3-inch sensor and laser autofocus, which dramatically reduces the time needed to focus on the subject. According to Meizu, the phone will do that in mere 0.2 seconds. On the front the MX5 will ship with a 5 mega-pixel snapper with an f/2.0 aperture.
The Meizu MX5 will weigh 149g which isn’t all that bad considering it has metal all around it. Software under the metal jacket will be Flyme 4.5, i.e., Meizu’s own skin over Android. Additionally, Flyme sources will also be made available on GitHub for developers to add their own tweaks and touches.
Pricing remains the same for the Meizu MX5 as it was with the MX4, no surprise as it is a modest upgrade. The basic 16GB model is just 1799 Yuan, 32GB is 1999 Yuan and the range topper 64GB is 2399 Yuan. Pricing for international customers is likely to follow MX4 pricing, but keep posted for updates.
Are any current MX4 owners planning to make the upgrade to the Meizu MX5, or are the differences too little to warrant the switch?
nothing better than LeTv x600
Indeed. Except is happens to be cheaper and has sdcard support. Hehehe.
3GB RAM. Super AMOLED.
Well, it has Fingerprint sensor, 20,7M camera (gizchina says in their review of mx4, one of the best cameras at this moment) Amoled display and Flyme (personal prefer). So that are 3/4 thing which are better. But the price of the MX5 will probably not be under $350,- , while the LeTv is priced online for aroud $280,-
“(gizchina says in their review of mx4, one of the best cameras at this moment)” at the time of the review maybe, but not compared to the LeTV X600 and Xiaomi Mi Note
Not compared to the Vibe shot or z9 either.
Flyme, SD Card, better camera, 3GB Ram and most importantly it’s made by Meizu, a company I trust more than LeTV.
… because of its constant software-updates! 🙂
i can’t find any news about SD card: are you sure about that?
I read it somewhere don’t remember where tho.
What is Flyme OS like ?
Kind of hard to describe, it’s very unique lol. It’s kind of like a cross between MIUI and iOS but also completely different. Youtube Flyme OS there are some videos there to show you what it is like.
Will do 😉
Flyme Os is useful but fast and dirty developed os. Many people complains about late notification, stuck on multitasking, old version of customized Chrome browser, etc. With my experience, I can say “buy helio x20 model for x10 performance because of bad software optimizations on Flyme Os”
Hmm bomber, LeTV also has 3GB RAM. If i read correctly, mx5 won’t have SD card. Plus, the camera has just more pixels Now, i too, trust more in Meizu than LeTV, even if i got one x600.
Yea I misread somewhere that there was an SD Card. For the camera I wasn’t even referring to the pixels, I was talking about the 6p lens they used in it as well as the laser guided focus.
RMB 1799/1999/2399 for 16/32/64GB.
damn this Soc, the GPU sucks big time, my only chance for a good phone is now the pro version, pls have a better GPU.
That’s complete BS.
The so called high end GPUs throttle hard after 10-15 minutes and perf drops The SoC just can’t use 4-5W of power without getting way hot and slowing down really hard.
High end phones also use 1440p screens and that’s 78% more pixels.
So all in all, if you actually do game, you are better off with this kind of GPU that’s not overdimensioned for marketing purposes. You get better GPU perf on this device than on a Galaxy S6, if you game more than a little bit. And you win on the battery life side of things too.
Here look how hard the Exynos 7420 throttles and everything with 4-5W power consumption throttles like that in a phone,it’s unavoidable http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/7
Those big GPUs that go power crazy are good only for folks that game little and are there for marketing because review sites don’t properly test GPU to show folks the real perf.
That’s an interesting answer right here! I’ll go check…
Do note that Anandtech tests offscreen so the screen res is not factored in in those FPS results but some devices there are 1440p and some 1080p so if you do play more than a little bit you really get better FPS with this SoC on 1080 than with Exynos 7420 or SD810 and 1440p.
product page http://www.meizu.com/products/mx5/fun.html
The SoC is at 2.2GHz ,the one in the LeTV is at 2GHz so not quite the same.
Too bad that the home button ruins the design and no mention of microSD.
” powered by the super impressive MediaTek Helio X10 ” please stop telling us lies. Its not impressive at all. To be honest its the only flaw of this phone has. This SoC is just bad…. weak single threaded performance, old 28nm technology and a GPU that has no real upgrade from MT6595 other than a speed bump. So no it is not super impressive…..
It’s the best SoC currently available. The only thing that comes close to it is the Exnyos from Samsung.
You just stated your opinion without any proof or evidence – its worthless
Evidence won’t work on someone like you, plenty of it exists for you to find but it would be pointless for me to post any.
don’t assume thing about people you don’t know. Either you can prove you are right or you are wrong. I am just trying to have a proper conversation
please stop telling us lies. Its not impressive at all. To be honest its the only flaw of this phone has. This SoC is just bad..
That told me all I needed to know about your views. Your mind is already made up that the SoC sucks, no point arguing about it.
well I said that because I saw a review of HTC with x10 on gsmarena and from their performance tests it was looking really awful.
You should probably read a few more reviews before judging a SoC off of one. Read the LeTV reviews as well.
He is right. he may say it in a stupid way. But for example: Each gpu benchmark proves that the speed of the helio x10 gpus is in par with the 2 1/2 year old snapdragon 600 gpu: snapdragon 320. Yes MediaTek improved in time, they have now for example good support(480 fps hd, uhd, 120 Hz screens) but they still lack from the beginning gpu capacity. If you are a android developer (like me) you would know that modern apps are far more gpu concerned then a few years ago, he cpu is still important, but less then the gpu.
Let’s have it about the cpu: A lot of apps are multicore optimized but still a lot of apps like message apps and forum apps are working single core optimized. The cpu single core performance is on par with the snapdragon 800 krait cores.
I dare to state that msm 8974 ab version of the s801 is faster then the helio x10 also in real life. I have been using two mtk 6752 phones with optimized software(jiayu s3 for example) and the gionee elife e7 to compare and the s800 of the elife e7 is way faster. (2 years old, and cheaper then the most mtk 6752)
sorry for grammar mistake, I see them now 🙁 The instead of he, than instead of then.
I will not make the same mistake anymore! I don’t buy a MediaTek SoC before they get their lazy asses off their seat and make/use a proper gpu, I would rather give me money to Greece. In the helio x20 they improved the single core performance with cortex-a72 but they still have a lot to improve.
*Gpu
*Software, their predelivered software kernel every brand does have to use, is as closed source as it can be. Its hard for a manufacture to make a proper not buggy update. If you see big technology topics the topic of smartphones with MediaTek contain more bugcomplaints after a (android) update than 3 other Snapdragon phones.
The one thing I like about this cheap-ass meizu is the price, they can’t make it higher with that piece of mtk ****.
After 16 MediaTek phones(yeah it isn’t a typo!) I am done with it: iOcean, iNew, Jiayu, Jiake, Blackview, Umi(previous week), Haier, InFocus, and don’t forget xiaomi with their redmi series(Hell of bugs).
K.
I guess you are confusing MT6795 with MT6752. Helio X10 is MT6795.
MT6752’s GPU on par with Adreno 320.
Look at the MT6795’s offscreen T-Rex and Manhattan results. It’s almost fast as fastest SD801 variant which is MSM8974AC.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Sony+Xperia+Z3+%28D66xx%2C+D6708%2C+L55%2C+SO-01G%2C+SOL26%2C+401SO%29
You proved my point 🙂 You see the real onscreen tests? 50% more fps and the z3 is worse than the majority of the snapdragon 801 phones. I didn’t confuse the mtk 6752 with the helio x10(mtk 6795) for a smartphone idiot like me it would be a shame. I compared the mtk 6752 with the snapdragon 800 and the mtk 6795 with the snapdragon 801 because of price level.
Sorry, but your claim is not true. If you don’t like Z3, compare it any SD801 device. Results are not much different.
It’s scores better than Adreno 330 in LG G2.
It’s scores a lot of better than Adreno 320 in Moto X. Look at the MX5 vs Moto X (first gen). They can’t considered in the same league even.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Motorola+Moto+X+%28XT1049%2C+XT105x%2C+XT1060%29
Why do you even consider taking the 3.1 benchmark? Comparing benchmarks when there are bottlenecks, does give absolutely not accurate results. You proved my point twice. *use GFX 3.0*
You see the gfx bench 3.0 results? The snapdragon 600 chip in the moto x)(it’s the worst version of the adreno 320, alu 64 instead of alu 96 like the adreno 320 of the s4)
Take for example the $156 Gionee elife e7. It’s ridiculous that a phone of $156 with a 1,5 year old chip outperforms a brand new $290, divine -according to some Med-iA-Sheeps, nice nickname for Mediatek fans by the way – phone called the LeTv on GPU.
So, let’s not even think about the s600, which is more than 2 years old and isn’t ins tore anymore.
And if you read my experience of the importance of GPU for apps nowadays you would laugh and say: MediaTek is a ridiculous brand but with a brilliant Marketing team, that let people believe it’s really high-end.
Conclusion (If response is too long with this hot weather)
helio x10 is a shame for the (high) price you pay, if you want a MediaTek buy a cheap phone with a mtk chip (max. the mtk 6752) because their highest chip will always be outperformed by a old snapdragon chip. (810>805>801>800>600) and even the 5 generations old s600 performs better with the built-in GPU.
Helio x10 gpu is even more worse than the adreno 320 (s600). It’s a big shame, Crapiatek, shame on you! The Helio x10 results were even lower than I predicted.
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A lot of MediaTek fans will be angry with me because I said something they didn’t like about their favourite Mediatek. But hey! It’s your choice to buy a MediaTek phone that is being outperformed by a old snapdragon chip.
I don’t have to justify buying a MediaTek phone, because I don’t. If you are happy justifying your buy, be happy with it, I don’t force you to buy a snapdragon phone.
You get your own source being used against you:
*comment:* Like I said above in an other comment, only use the onscreen benchmarks with no big bottleneck, offscreen is virtual, forced resolution so the cpu plays a bigger part than in real life.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&did2=6255&os2=Android&api2=gl&hwtype2=GPU&hwname2=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+320
I have made a lot of grammar mistakes, I hate them but every long response of my does have them :/
First of all my phone has Adreno 330 GPU in it.
Secondly only GFXBench 3.1 benchmark is Manhattan 3.1. Older devices didn’t benchmarked with it. So these results are from 3.0 already except Manhattan 3.1.
Lastly it’s scores better than Samsung S4 too onscreen and offscreen both.
Gionee E7 that cheap because of inventory cleaning. And it isn’t faster than LeTV X600 anyway. And you know it has Adreno 330. And you are trying to convince people its slower than Adreno 320.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&&did1=22805144&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+330&did2=25770873&os2=Android&api2=gl&hwtype2=GPU&hwname2=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200
Keep liking your own comments.
A53 are on pair with Kraits MHz/MHz… Adrenos have problems with any kind of texture surface transform + no suport for half precision float.
There whose much development from community for Snapdragons thats why they run better.
Everything based on browsing of any kind is single cpu bounded & that makes 60% of all tasks that we actually use.
Morzila Is working first multicore implementationi…
Intel’s old Z3580 is current king of the hill in upper mid class & only thanks to su financing products based on their SoC’s.
P’s there is interesting work on tuning p state driver for Atom’s in Linux 4.1 kernel resulting in two digits gains.
You realise this is a mid ranger right and priced accordingly?
Benchmarks only tell half of the story. Guarantee in real life, this mediatek will outperform the snapdragon 810.
In real life most SoC’s outperform the 810 except in heating tests! The 810 destroys everyone in those.
That’s mainly because HTC’s Sense wasn’t optimized for the MTK processor. The M9+ using an MTK processor really just seems like an afterthought to avoid overheating with the Snapdragon 810 processor. The LeTV X600 reviews I’ve seen and read tell a completely different story.
Exynos > S810 > MT6795. Waiting for One Plus Two is a good choice at the moment.
The 810 is great if you want a portable heater. As a SoC it is horrible.
Version 2.1 is much better 😉 the gpu is more powerful Then mtk’s 6200
Version 2.1 hasn’t really improved. Take a look.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Watch-as-the-Sony-Xperia-Z3-overheats-after-a-few-seconds-camera-app-use_id70816
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Japanese-Sony-Xperia-Z4-users-are-already-complaining-of-overheating-issues_id70324
You’d think Qualcomm were trying to imitate Ubisoft with this bunch of problems.
oh ok 🙁
Version 2.1 is much better at what? Starting a fire without matches? Early reviews of the 2.1 say it is nothing more than lipstick on a pig, minor improvements that don’t solve the overall issues. Just like the “updates” to the 615.
Agree with you that soc isn’t the flagship category. But soc is impressive nonetheless.
Hi so can I ask have you tried the Helio X10 in a smart phone?
Yeah the snapdragon 810 is much superior. Use it for a few minutes and single core performance halves.
It’s actually pretty impressive, considering how high the performance to price ratio is. The phone’s single threaded performance is definitely not weak considering it scores similarly to the good old Snapdragon 800. The 28nm technology doesn’t really seem to be detrimental to battery life if the LeTV X600 is anything to go by, and the GPU is more than powerful enough to handle almost all recent games.
If you looked purely at the specs of the SoC then you might think it’s not impressive, but when you factor in the price differences between this and something like the Snapdragon 810 processor, it’s actually really impressive what MediaTek managed to achieve. Also, unlike most of the recent Snapdragon SoCs, the 6795 doesn’t overheat or throttle performance. So yes, it’s actually pretty impressive.
Thank you Airyl for a very good and informative answer
As an owner of letv x600 I must say I’m impressed with this soc. It’s my first mtk and I’m glad I’ve chosen this phone. And for all snapdragon shill going on, phones like letv x600 or meizu mx5 give you quality of finish on par with iPhone or galaxy6 ( no joke had all of them in hand ), good perormance, for a fraction of price. Do you expect MTK to make miracles and sell snapdragons or exynos for 1/3 of its market price to oems ? If you want that kind of stuff go buy htc m9 or galaxy6 and stop spitting that crap around.
Thank you for being civil.
s800/801 is now a mid-range SoC which is 2 years old!
and this MT has TWO times weaker GPU
So, XIaomi mi4 is on par with this “flagship” device while it costs 70 dollars less
It is just not flagsip because it has 1080 dislpay like from 2013
You are so obsessed with your that 2 times weaker misunderstanding.
Check out the link below. It shows MT6795’s GPU on par with fastest SD801 variant at offscreen Manhattan and T-Rex benchmarks.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Sony+Xperia+Z3+%28D66xx%2C+D6708%2C+L55%2C+SO-01G%2C+SOL26%2C+401SO%29
It’s not actually “TWO times weaker”. It’s only slightly behind. And no, the Mi4 is not on par with this device because the MX5 appears to be a better all around phone from pretty much all aspects, and the Mi4’s display isn’t really that great.
They have exactly the same generation displays – 1080p.
What huge advantages has MX5, except some doubtful extras like fingerprint scanner? I dont see them.
As we are talking about SoCs, not about swappable videoadapters, the performance showed in gflops is likely to be true
Of course, octa core a53/57 monster is much much stronger CPU than old s800, but in graphic tests it is slightly behind, because these tests measure CPU preformance too (this is SoC!)
So, who knows, what would we have if this GPU would be built into s801-like cpu. Results two times worse look quite probable
Lol, what? You’re telling me you’re impressed by a 2015 “flagship” SoC that matches the performance of a 2-year-old SoC? WOW.
The MTK6795 scores similarly to the Snapdragon 800 in single threaded performance only. It completely demolishes the Snappy 800 in multi threaded performance, and it even beats out the Snapdragon 810 in this regard, so yeah, it’s pretty impressive.
Also, let’s talk about the Snapdragon 810 for a minute. It’s by far the absolute worst SoC in the history of Qualcomm. The MTK6795 may not beat the 810 in raw power, but it definitely destroys the 810 in terms of stability and consistency in processing. The 810’s throttling and overheating are, in fact, so bad, that Geekbench sometimes shows it to be performing even worse than the Snapdragon 800 processor. Ironic, huh?
And while we’re on subject, let’s talk about how much power you really need. Using your phone as, well, a phone doesn’t really require much power at all. Same goes for many social apps and browsers, which can run smoothly even on phones like the Redmi Note 4G, and appear to be more reliant on the amount and performance of your RAM more than anything. Then there’s games. For the casual gamer, the GPU inside the MTK6795 is way more than enough to plow through a game of Candy Crush or Clash of Clans. The lines blur a little once you get to higher end games, but with the correct settings, even games like Horn or A Bard’s Tale can run perfectly smooth, even on phones with MTK6752 processors. Maybe it won’t be able to handle future games with extremely intense graphics, but if my MTK6752 ECOO E04 can handle NOVA 3 with ease, then I don’t really see what you need so much power for.
Now let me ask you a question. Would you prefer an extremely fast SoC that overheats and throttles its own performance as fast as a hot knife through butter, or would you rather have an SoC that performs very well, is much more affordable and has better stability? I know I’d go with the MTK6795 any day of the week.
And finally, to answer your question. No, I’m not impressed by a “2015 “flagship” SoC that matches the performance of a 2-year-old SoC”, I’m impressed that MediaTek has managed to make an SoC that can provide you with a stable, fast and smooth flagship experience that doesn’t break any records but costs much less than an extremely pricy SoC that breaks records for overheating and throttling almost every single day.
But seriously, the HTC One M9 is like $580+ these days. The MX5 is nearly half of that. Think about for a second and go figure.
It’s shity compared to older S800 lineup both in efficiency & GPU. Kraits vs A53s losses In a small margins in a real workloads even Kraits have bigger DMIPS/MHz. Their is almost a zero benefit from additional second cluster of cores in real usage so they can stick they multicore performance advertisement (because that’s all what it is) where sun don’t shine. They have used power efficient tuned GX6250 Power VR which is architecturally the same as 6200, that’s why they whare able to bump frequency. Comparation with A330 is silly . Compared to Intel SoC’s that come wiith quad cluster rogue (one’s find in Zenphone 2) makes X10 look even worse.
No one sane will buy bullshits based on X10 with higher pricing than last years top brands flagship’s or Zenphone 2. As always cheap MTK basterd’s are learning it hard way.
I find it amusing that you claimed the Helio X10 gets destroyed by the Intel processor in the top of the line Zenfone 2. Tests ran by Andi show that the advantages that the Zenfone 2 has are negligible at best, and that the Helio X10 can definitely keep up with, if not beat the Intel processor of the Zenfone 2. Look for yourself.
https://www.gizchina.com/2015/05/11/asus-zenfone-2-review/
https://www.gizchina.com/2015/06/11/letv-1-x600-review/
So yeah. All that talk just backfired on you because you refused to do simple research. They’re both pretty much the same price depending on where you look, so neither has the price advantage (unless you live in China, where the X600 is significantly cheaper). And to top it off, the X600 is also better built, has better speakers and camera, comes with a USB-C port for faster data transfers and is a more compact and easy to manage package altogether.
Also, stop insulting Andi. That’s incredibly rude, considering no insults were thrown until you came along.
Hater gonna be hater forever. Just ignore them by the way.
No one even mentioned Andi anywhere. By the way he didn’t rewiev stronger variant but one with 1.8GHz turbo. Dire boy it looks like you don’t even understand basics. Z3580 is a little faster when all cores are running @1.33GHz vs 4xA53 @2.2GHz or around the same but when it comes to single core burst performance Atom takes a lead. Naturally this is extremely important when app is initially started or in browser. Extended sets of SIMD instructions also take significant lead over arms NEON when used, essentially for multimedia tasks.
So fun boy do a little reading to get some education instead claiming bullshits!
As their are still no results for X10 for comparation purpose you can use S801 results, pay a close attention to physics scores:
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Asus+ZenFone+2+ZE551ML+%28Z3580%29/review
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+Z2+Tablet+%28APQ8074AB+v3%29/review
Edit: found LeTV X600 so we can end this! http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LeTV+X600/review
Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.
P.S – “No one sane will buy bullshits based on X10”. Andi uses the LeTV X600, which is clearly based on the Helio X10. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that you’re literally calling Andi and anyone using a LeTV X600 insane.
I said “no one sane will buy bullshits based on X10 with higher pricing than last years top brands flagship’s or Zenphone 2”. Don’t believe Andi paid a cent for it.
Stop telling lies making out of the context half quotes genius.
Only thing insulted hire is my intelligence.
I guess if you live in China the base model MX5 might be $300, but for those outside of China we only need to look to at past and present MX3/MX4 pricing to know what the MX5 is going to run us (FYI: Meizu’s own online store still lists the 16GB MX4 at $449US). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the international/re-seller pricing is necessarily Meizu’s fault. However, most people commenting here (yourself included) do not live in China, so judging it based on the international cost seems perfectly fair to me, especially when there are year-old “flagships” that, in my opinion, have a much better price/performance ratio.
And I’m not sure why you brought up the SD 810 in response to my comment. Not only did I not mention it, but if you’d read any of my prior comments on Gizchina you’d know I agree with you in that regard. In fact, I’m on the record as stating that I will not be buying a OnePlus 2 for that very reason. I actually argued very passionately for the SD 805 as a more efficient, lower cost alternative (I also argued for a 1080P display for that matter, so I’m no spec-monkey).
I understand that the Helio X10 is powerful enough to tackle today’s most common usage applications with ease. But the low-range SD 410 can claim that as well. The X10 barely outperforms the previous-gen MTK6595 (and, in fact, benchmarks slower in a few categories). And it’s bested by the year-old SD 801 in every area except MT performance. But, by your own reasoning, that shouldn’t even matter because the SD 801’s MT performance is still more than fast enough for any current usage scenario (and isn’t ST performance more important at the present time anyway?)
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I look at benchmarks like these, http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_e9_plus-review-1269p5.php, and wonder how anyone can consider the Helio X10 a flagship SoC. I certainly can’t imagine being impressed that a major smartphone vendor (in China, anyway) chose it for their latest flagship. Is it fast enough? Sure, for most current applications. Is it future-proof? In one aspect, yes. In several others, no.
Pleas tell me is this phone have DUAL SIM??? :/
Yes, it is, it is also written in the article
Honnor 7 have IMX230 camera. Which camera have Meizu MX5???
And which is processor better?
Meizu MX5 has IMX220 with improved software algarithms and a new 6P lens. So basically the same camera sensor size from MX4, not the newest one.
Thx a lot Jason45 🙂
So you think the IMX220 fom Meizu mx5 will be better then IMX220?
IMX 220 and 230 are built on the same exact architecture its like the 135 and 214. There is no “better” one as it all comes down to the optics and software each setup uses among other things. If both were in the same phone with the same exact setup most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
The Honor 7 got sapphire glass protection. How about the lens protection on MX5?
Havent heard anything specific yet but Meizu always uses good optics no doubt that did on this one either.
No Ubuntu version… 🙁
Considering they just launched the Mx4 Ubuntu and its not even available anywhere but Europe I wouldnt expect an Ubuntu version for at least 6 months.
It was my anxiety writing before… I know it will be, at the very least, 6 months of waiting (my guess is another year, or even more). It’s been a long, long time since the Ubuntu Edge project launch, and I haven’t been really excited since then (like if I were asexual, hehe).
I am actually currently using an Ubuntu BQ 4,5 for the 30 days. The phone itself is one of the worst I ever used but Ubuntu is impressing me.
Yeah! People rant about it… but I can admire the way Canonical has approached the UI scene. Time ago, with the Nokia N9 I felt something similar, but this thing is the real deal. Any insights you’d like to share? I’m definitely going to give it more than a try 😉
You can follow my progress in the Gizchina forums. Ill be updating it every few days with my thoughts. This weekend will be the first time I get to spend extended time with it.
Sure, I’ll be waiting, good to have you around.
As a Xioami fanboy this could be the phone that moves me away from them. I love MIUI and 1999 for a 32gb phone with these specs is a steal.
I’m sold too
So far I actually like Ubuntu, haven’t done anything in depth with it yet but in the few hours I spent with it I am impressed. Might wait for an Ubuntu Mx5 to come out and buy that.
Tell us more …
or send a review @andi! 😉
You can follow my progress in the Gizchina forums I will be updating it every few days as I get more in depth with the phone.
Oh! Gizchina-Forums! THX! 🙂
No problem Ill be updating it this weekend.
Link please 🙂
Haha, I just hope that after resellers the Meizu MX5 will not be sold around $400. It is amazing looking phone with killer specs. I was so excited to buy a Xiaomi phone but this MX5 is tempting me to be honest.
Did you get your BQ Ubuntu phone:
http://www.bq.com/gb/aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition
is their bootloader locked?
Havent checked it yet. To be honest ive only spent about an hour with it have been so busy with work this week.
Always is on Meizu phones.
that sucks
I’m still planning on getting my Mi3 in July and may stick with MIUI v6 unless Ivan’s 5.1 AOSP Rom (or other Lollipop Rom proves otherwise) !
Same price as the LeTV, but with slightly better specs. Yeah.
What??? MTK6795 but no super slow motion and slowmotion???? No 249fps and no 480fps??? WHY?
Good point! Lets wait and see …
How long does it generally take before resellers start selling them after launch? I like the fact that its dual sim 🙂
Usually some resellers will start to sell it as soon as a week after launch but the price will be out of this world.
Damn :-). I have sent back my M1 for replacement and the reseller has confirmed that Meizu has stopped making them and so I can’t get a replacement. The only reason I never went for the Mx4 was because of the single sim thing. I was kinda hoping I could talk them down in price and get a Mx5(with paying in a $100 or so) :-). Now I need to figure out a worthy replacement.
if it has SD card in it….sh*t up and take my money!
This is a joke, take it accordingly.
You are greek, you have no money.
This is actually a “T” version of the 6795 which means that both CPU and GPU are clocked higher.
PVR 6200 is enough for current FHD gaming titles, but the ones that are gonna be out in say six months – maybe not.
On the other hand the Huawei Kirin 935 is no better, with the Ancient Mali MP628.
I personally would go for the Rogue in the Helio chipset.
I was thinking the same. The gpu in the zenfone 2 and the k3 note are way better I believe . Dont understand y give outdated gpus for current flagship. N all the noobs just look at ram
No mention of a micro SD card slot – is it possible? That was the only reason I waited for this phone instead of buying the LeTV…
there is no micro SD card slot in the Meizu MX5 !!
I had the same query..official site does not mention sd card
Two questions this phone has:
1. USB-C?
2. MHL?
800 mhz lte?
plz!
There’s no 800Mhz LTE support in the spec so I would doubt this.
where did you see those specs?
I’ve read the specs numerous times from various different sources and none of them mention 800Mhz LTE support. I really hope I’m wrong but I still haven’t been able to find anything that says otherwise. That means O2 here in the UK is out for LTE as it only uses 800Mhz.
which specs? there are no specs about the mx5 fdd lte bands!
I hope they have. Need 800Mhz in The Netherlands
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/92be34d9
HELIO 10 have 240fps and 480fps slow motion. LETV have 240fps but Meizu MX5 have 100fps!!!! WhY??? Will Meizu update with more fps latter? Andy? Someone can please tell me about this.
This is a big mistake of Meizu.
I wouldn’t say it’s a big mistake, that’s not exactly one of the most requested features of a smartphone by the average consumer.
“Flyme sources will also be made available on GitHub for developers to add their own tweaks and touches”
Great!
I can’t wait to try it out on my (future) UMI Iron. 🙂
Winner of the day IMO. Sorry Honor 7.
No. OIS???? :0
I sure hope so since this was one of if not the only issue with the MX4 camera! Anyone can confirm?
MX5: 350cd/m² (Amoled Display)
MX4: 500cd/m² (LED Display) very good to read in sunlight.
http://img1.mydrivers.com/img/20150630/s_7f99775841ed430f87baf3ef9f483fa4.jpg
“Nit (nt) is a non-SI name also used for this unit (1 nt = 1 cd/m2).”
I got my information from Meizu product page about its specifications:
http://www.meizu.com/products/mx5/spec.html
One of their info must be wrong! 😉
What’s with the Useless stamp on it?
Andy, we need this phone compared with LeTv X600 soon
meizu is Excellent compeny,great phones with great Prices,the mx4 has very good cpu ,the 6795 need to be better ,and the best news is that meizu will post Flyme sources on GitHub !!!
This or the Asus Zenfone 2 4GB RAM/64GB ROM? I am leaning towards the Asus though considering its cheaper, has a better GPU, more RAM and also and SD Card too.
Any suggestions?
This looks a lot better than Zenfone IMO and It has a better camera on paper (still needs to be tested).
i like the Meizu better but i would wait to hear some review first.
this is more expensive, I bought the zenfone 2 4GB/32GB in gearbest at 265$ with free shipping, and I think that it will have better community support than meizu.
what about the promised 480fps video support in MT6795T from Mediatek ?
At the end of this page http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/hero-products/helio-X10/ you can see that mediatek say ”Specifications may vary by model. Multimedia features are subject to activation by end-products manufacturers.”
Anyone interested in the Ubuntu Phone, I will be spending the next 30 days (actually 27 now :0 )with one. I am trying to get more people into the forums so my progress will be made exclusively there. The more people that participate the more I will post. A few have asked me for the link it is below:
https://www.gizchina.com/forums/topic/ubuntu-phone-for-30-days/
Well the 64gb is more expensive and less featured then the oneplus two. So for cheaper then this you have a snapdragon 810 which doesnt overheat, has usb c, etc.
I guess the so called cheap flagships arent that cheap anymore lol
Do tell me a flagship from Samsung, Sony, Iphone, LG or other known brands, who can meet the price of Chinese budget flaghips ? Its more about some people new to Chinese phones expecting Chinese manufacturers to keep halfing the price of phone every year and probably in 2 years they expect a budget high spec phone for 500RMB.
nothing better than LeTv x600
Indeed. Except is happens to be cheaper and has sdcard support. Hehehe.
3GB RAM. Super AMOLED.
Well, it has Fingerprint sensor, 20,7M camera (gizchina says in their review of mx4, one of the best cameras at this moment) Amoled display and Flyme (personal prefer). So that are 3/4 thing which are better. But the price of the MX5 will probably not be under $350,- , while the LeTv is priced online for aroud $280,-
Flyme, SD Card, better camera, 3GB Ram and most importantly it’s made by Meizu, a company I trust more than LeTV.
… because of its constant software-updates! 🙂
“(gizchina says in their review of mx4, one of the best cameras at this moment)” at the time of the review maybe, but not compared to the LeTV X600 and Xiaomi Mi Note
Not compared to the Vibe shot or z9 either.
i can’t find any news about SD card: are you sure about that?
What is Flyme OS like ?
Kind of hard to describe, it’s very unique lol. It’s kind of like a cross between MIUI and iOS but also completely different. Youtube Flyme OS there are some videos there to show you what it is like.
I read it somewhere don’t remember where tho.
Will do 😉
Hmm bomber, LeTV also has 3GB RAM. If i read correctly, mx5 won’t have SD card. Plus, the camera has just more pixels Now, i too, trust more in Meizu than LeTV, even if i got one x600.
Yea I misread somewhere that there was an SD Card. For the camera I wasn’t even referring to the pixels, I was talking about the 6p lens they used in it as well as the laser guided focus.
Flyme Os is useful but fast and dirty developed os. Many people complains about late notification, stuck on multitasking, old version of customized Chrome browser, etc. With my experience, I can say “buy helio x20 model for x10 performance because of bad software optimizations on Flyme Os”
RMB 1799/1999/2399 for 16/32/64GB.
damn this Soc, the GPU sucks big time, my only chance for a good phone is now the pro version, pls have a better GPU.
That’s complete BS.
The so called high end GPUs throttle hard after 10-15 minutes and perf drops The SoC just can’t use 4-5W of power without getting way hot and slowing down really hard.
High end phones also use 1440p screens and that’s 78% more pixels.
So all in all, if you actually do game, you are better off with this kind of GPU that’s not overdimensioned for marketing purposes. You get better GPU perf on this device than on a Galaxy S6, if you game more than a little bit. And you win on the battery life side of things too.
Here look how hard the Exynos 7420 throttles and everything with 4-5W power consumption throttles like that in a phone,it’s unavoidable http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/7
Those big GPUs that go power crazy are good only for folks that game little and are there for marketing because review sites don’t properly test GPU to show folks the real perf.
That’s an interesting answer right here! I’ll go check…
Do note that Anandtech tests offscreen so the screen res is not factored in in those FPS results but some devices there are 1440p and some 1080p so if you do play more than a little bit you really get better FPS with this SoC on 1080 than with Exynos 7420 or SD810 and 1440p.
product page http://www.meizu.com/products/mx5/fun.html
The SoC is at 2.2GHz ,the one in the LeTV is at 2GHz so not quite the same.
Too bad that the home button ruins the design and no mention of microSD.
” powered by the super impressive MediaTek Helio X10 ” please stop telling us lies. Its not impressive at all. To be honest its the only flaw of this phone has. This SoC is just bad…. weak single threaded performance, old 28nm technology and a GPU that has no real upgrade from MT6595 other than a speed bump. So no it is not super impressive…..
It’s the best SoC currently available. The only thing that comes close to it is the Exnyos from Samsung.
You just stated your opinion without any proof or evidence – its worthless
Evidence won’t work on someone like you, plenty of it exists for you to find but it would be pointless for me to post any.
don’t assume thing about people you don’t know. Either you can prove you are right or you are wrong. I am just trying to have a proper conversation
please stop telling us lies. Its not impressive at all. To be honest its the only flaw of this phone has. This SoC is just bad..
That told me all I needed to know about your views. Your mind is already made up that the SoC sucks, no point arguing about it.
Agree with you that soc isn’t the flagship category. But soc is impressive nonetheless.
Hi so can I ask have you tried the Helio X10 in a smart phone?
well I said that because I saw a review of HTC with x10 on gsmarena and from their performance tests it was looking really awful.
You should probably read a few more reviews before judging a SoC off of one. Read the LeTV reviews as well.
You realise this is a mid ranger right and priced accordingly?
Yeah the snapdragon 810 is much superior. Use it for a few minutes and single core performance halves.
Benchmarks only tell half of the story. Guarantee in real life, this mediatek will outperform the snapdragon 810.
It’s actually pretty impressive, considering how high the performance to price ratio is. The phone’s single threaded performance is definitely not weak considering it scores similarly to the good old Snapdragon 800. The 28nm technology doesn’t really seem to be detrimental to battery life if the LeTV X600 is anything to go by, and the GPU is more than powerful enough to handle almost all recent games.
If you looked purely at the specs of the SoC then you might think it’s not impressive, but when you factor in the price differences between this and something like the Snapdragon 810 processor, it’s actually really impressive what MediaTek managed to achieve. Also, unlike most of the recent Snapdragon SoCs, the 6795 doesn’t overheat or throttle performance. So yes, it’s actually pretty impressive.
In real life most SoC’s outperform the 810 except in heating tests! The 810 destroys everyone in those.
That’s mainly because HTC’s Sense wasn’t optimized for the MTK processor. The M9+ using an MTK processor really just seems like an afterthought to avoid overheating with the Snapdragon 810 processor. The LeTV X600 reviews I’ve seen and read tell a completely different story.
Thank you Airyl for a very good and informative answer
He is right. he may say it in a stupid way. But for example: Each gpu benchmark proves that the speed of the helio x10 gpus is in par with the 2 1/2 year old snapdragon 600 gpu: snapdragon 320. Yes MediaTek improved in time, they have now for example good support(480 fps hd, uhd, 120 Hz screens) but they still lack from the beginning gpu capacity. If you are a android developer (like me) you would know that modern apps are far more gpu concerned then a few years ago, he cpu is still important, but less then the gpu.
Let’s have it about the cpu: A lot of apps are multicore optimized but still a lot of apps like message apps and forum apps are working single core optimized. The cpu single core performance is on par with the snapdragon 800 krait cores.
I dare to state that msm 8974 ab version of the s801 is faster then the helio x10 also in real life. I have been using two mtk 6752 phones with optimized software(jiayu s3 for example) and the gionee elife e7 to compare and the s800 of the elife e7 is way faster. (2 years old, and cheaper then the most mtk 6752)
sorry for grammar mistake, I see them now 🙁 The instead of he, than instead of then.
s800/801 is now a mid-range SoC which is 2 years old!
and this MT has TWO times weaker GPU
So, XIaomi mi4 is on par with this “flagship” device while it costs 70 dollars less
It is just not flagsip because it has 1080 dislpay like from 2013
I guess you are confusing MT6795 with MT6752. Helio X10 is MT6795.
MT6752’s GPU on par with Adreno 320.
Look at the MT6795’s offscreen T-Rex and Manhattan results. It’s almost fast as fastest SD801 variant which is MSM8974AC.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Sony+Xperia+Z3+%28D66xx%2C+D6708%2C+L55%2C+SO-01G%2C+SOL26%2C+401SO%29
You are so obsessed with your that 2 times weaker misunderstanding.
Check out the link below. It shows MT6795’s GPU on par with fastest SD801 variant at offscreen Manhattan and T-Rex benchmarks.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Sony+Xperia+Z3+%28D66xx%2C+D6708%2C+L55%2C+SO-01G%2C+SOL26%2C+401SO%29
Lol, what? You’re telling me you’re impressed by a 2015 “flagship” SoC that matches the performance of a 2-year-old SoC? WOW.
You proved my point 🙂 You see the real onscreen tests? 50% more fps and the z3 is worse than the majority of the snapdragon 801 phones. I didn’t confuse the mtk 6752 with the helio x10(mtk 6795) for a smartphone idiot like me it would be a shame. I compared the mtk 6752 with the snapdragon 800 and the mtk 6795 with the snapdragon 801 because of price level.
I will not make the same mistake anymore! I don’t buy a MediaTek SoC before they get their lazy asses off their seat and make/use a proper gpu, I would rather give me money to Greece. In the helio x20 they improved the single core performance with cortex-a72 but they still have a lot to improve.
*Gpu
*Software, their predelivered software kernel every brand does have to use, is as closed source as it can be. Its hard for a manufacture to make a proper not buggy update. If you see big technology topics the topic of smartphones with MediaTek contain more bugcomplaints after a (android) update than 3 other Snapdragon phones.
The one thing I like about this cheap-ass meizu is the price, they can’t make it higher with that piece of mtk ****.
After 16 MediaTek phones(yeah it isn’t a typo!) I am done with it: iOcean, iNew, Jiayu, Jiake, Blackview, Umi(previous week), Haier, InFocus, and don’t forget xiaomi with their redmi series(Hell of bugs).
Exynos > S810 > MT6795. Waiting for One Plus Two is a good choice at the moment.
The 810 is great if you want a portable heater. As a SoC it is horrible.
Sorry, but your claim is not true. If you don’t like Z3, compare it any SD801 device. Results are not much different.
It’s scores better than Adreno 330 in LG G2.
It’s scores a lot of better than Adreno 320 in Moto X. Look at the MX5 vs Moto X (first gen). They can’t considered in the same league even.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&D2=Motorola+Moto+X+%28XT1049%2C+XT105x%2C+XT1060%29
As an owner of letv x600 I must say I’m impressed with this soc. It’s my first mtk and I’m glad I’ve chosen this phone. And for all snapdragon shill going on, phones like letv x600 or meizu mx5 give you quality of finish on par with iPhone or galaxy6 ( no joke had all of them in hand ), good perormance, for a fraction of price. Do you expect MTK to make miracles and sell snapdragons or exynos for 1/3 of its market price to oems ? If you want that kind of stuff go buy htc m9 or galaxy6 and stop spitting that crap around.
It’s not actually “TWO times weaker”. It’s only slightly behind. And no, the Mi4 is not on par with this device because the MX5 appears to be a better all around phone from pretty much all aspects, and the Mi4’s display isn’t really that great.
The MTK6795 scores similarly to the Snapdragon 800 in single threaded performance only. It completely demolishes the Snappy 800 in multi threaded performance, and it even beats out the Snapdragon 810 in this regard, so yeah, it’s pretty impressive.
Also, let’s talk about the Snapdragon 810 for a minute. It’s by far the absolute worst SoC in the history of Qualcomm. The MTK6795 may not beat the 810 in raw power, but it definitely destroys the 810 in terms of stability and consistency in processing. The 810’s throttling and overheating are, in fact, so bad, that Geekbench sometimes shows it to be performing even worse than the Snapdragon 800 processor. Ironic, huh?
And while we’re on subject, let’s talk about how much power you really need. Using your phone as, well, a phone doesn’t really require much power at all. Same goes for many social apps and browsers, which can run smoothly even on phones like the Redmi Note 4G, and appear to be more reliant on the amount and performance of your RAM more than anything. Then there’s games. For the casual gamer, the GPU inside the MTK6795 is way more than enough to plow through a game of Candy Crush or Clash of Clans. The lines blur a little once you get to higher end games, but with the correct settings, even games like Horn or A Bard’s Tale can run perfectly smooth, even on phones with MTK6752 processors. Maybe it won’t be able to handle future games with extremely intense graphics, but if my MTK6752 ECOO E04 can handle NOVA 3 with ease, then I don’t really see what you need so much power for.
Now let me ask you a question. Would you prefer an extremely fast SoC that overheats and throttles its own performance as fast as a hot knife through butter, or would you rather have an SoC that performs very well, is much more affordable and has better stability? I know I’d go with the MTK6795 any day of the week.
And finally, to answer your question. No, I’m not impressed by a “2015 “flagship” SoC that matches the performance of a 2-year-old SoC”, I’m impressed that MediaTek has managed to make an SoC that can provide you with a stable, fast and smooth flagship experience that doesn’t break any records but costs much less than an extremely pricy SoC that breaks records for overheating and throttling almost every single day.
But seriously, the HTC One M9 is like $580+ these days. The MX5 is nearly half of that. Think about for a second and go figure.
It’s shity compared to older S800 lineup both in efficiency & GPU. Kraits vs A53s losses In a small margins in a real workloads even Kraits have bigger DMIPS/MHz. Their is almost a zero benefit from additional second cluster of cores in real usage so they can stick they multicore performance advertisement (because that’s all what it is) where sun don’t shine. They have used power efficient tuned GX6250 Power VR which is architecturally the same as 6200, that’s why they whare able to bump frequency. Comparation with A330 is silly . Compared to Intel SoC’s that come wiith quad cluster rogue (one’s find in Zenphone 2) makes X10 look even worse.
No one sane will buy bullshits based on X10 with higher pricing than last years top brands flagship’s or Zenphone 2. As always cheap MTK basterd’s are learning it hard way.
Version 2.1 is much better 😉 the gpu is more powerful Then mtk’s 6200
I find it amusing that you claimed the Helio X10 gets destroyed by the Intel processor in the top of the line Zenfone 2. Tests ran by Andi show that the advantages that the Zenfone 2 has are negligible at best, and that the Helio X10 can definitely keep up with, if not beat the Intel processor of the Zenfone 2. Look for yourself.
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/05/11/asus-zenfone-2-review/
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/06/11/letv-1-x600-review/
So yeah. All that talk just backfired on you because you refused to do simple research. They’re both pretty much the same price depending on where you look, so neither has the price advantage (unless you live in China, where the X600 is significantly cheaper). And to top it off, the X600 is also better built, has better speakers and camera, comes with a USB-C port for faster data transfers and is a more compact and easy to manage package altogether.
Also, stop insulting Andi. That’s incredibly rude, considering no insults were thrown until you came along.
Version 2.1 hasn’t really improved. Take a look.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Watch-as-the-Sony-Xperia-Z3-overheats-after-a-few-seconds-camera-app-use_id70816
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Japanese-Sony-Xperia-Z4-users-are-already-complaining-of-overheating-issues_id70324
You’d think Qualcomm were trying to imitate Ubisoft with this bunch of problems.
oh ok 🙁
Version 2.1 is much better at what? Starting a fire without matches? Early reviews of the 2.1 say it is nothing more than lipstick on a pig, minor improvements that don’t solve the overall issues. Just like the “updates” to the 615.
Thank you for being civil.
Hater gonna be hater forever. Just ignore them by the way.
No one even mentioned Andi anywhere. By the way he didn’t rewiev stronger variant but one with 1.8GHz turbo. Dire boy it looks like you don’t even understand basics. Z3580 is a little faster when all cores are running @1.33GHz vs 4xA53 @2.2GHz or around the same but when it comes to single core burst performance Atom takes a lead. Naturally this is extremely important when app is initially started or in browser. Extended sets of SIMD instructions also take significant lead over arms NEON when used, essentially for multimedia tasks.
So fun boy do a little reading to get some education instead claiming bullshits!
As their are still no results for X10 for comparation purpose you can use S801 results, pay a close attention to physics scores:
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Asus+ZenFone+2+ZE551ML+%28Z3580%29/review
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+Z2+Tablet+%28APQ8074AB+v3%29/review
Edit: found LeTV X600 so we can end this! http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LeTV+X600/review
Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.
P.S – “No one sane will buy bullshits based on X10”. Andi uses the LeTV X600, which is clearly based on the Helio X10. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that you’re literally calling Andi and anyone using a LeTV X600 insane.
K.
I said “no one sane will buy bullshits based on X10 with higher pricing than last years top brands flagship’s or Zenphone 2”. Don’t believe Andi paid a cent for it.
Stop telling lies making out of the context half quotes genius.
Only thing insulted hire is my intelligence.
I guess if you live in China the base model MX5 might be $300, but for those outside of China we only need to look to at past and present MX3/MX4 pricing to know what the MX5 is going to run us (FYI: Meizu’s own online store still lists the 16GB MX4 at $449US). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the international/re-seller pricing is necessarily Meizu’s fault. However, most people commenting here (yourself included) do not live in China, so judging it based on the international cost seems perfectly fair to me, especially when there are year-old “flagships” that, in my opinion, have a much better price/performance ratio.
And I’m not sure why you brought up the SD 810 in response to my comment. Not only did I not mention it, but if you’d read any of my prior comments on Gizchina you’d know I agree with you in that regard. In fact, I’m on the record as stating that I will not be buying a OnePlus 2 for that very reason. I actually argued very passionately for the SD 805 as a more efficient, lower cost alternative (I also argued for a 1080P display for that matter, so I’m no spec-monkey).
I understand that the Helio X10 is powerful enough to tackle today’s most common usage applications with ease. But the low-range SD 410 can claim that as well. The X10 barely outperforms the previous-gen MTK6595 (and, in fact, benchmarks slower in a few categories). And it’s bested by the year-old SD 801 in every area except MT performance. But, by your own reasoning, that shouldn’t even matter because the SD 801’s MT performance is still more than fast enough for any current usage scenario (and isn’t ST performance more important at the present time anyway?)
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I look at benchmarks like these, http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_e9_plus-review-1269p5.php, and wonder how anyone can consider the Helio X10 a flagship SoC. I certainly can’t imagine being impressed that a major smartphone vendor (in China, anyway) chose it for their latest flagship. Is it fast enough? Sure, for most current applications. Is it future-proof? In one aspect, yes. In several others, no.
Why do you even consider taking the 3.1 benchmark? Comparing benchmarks when there are bottlenecks, does give absolutely not accurate results. You proved my point twice. *use GFX 3.0*
You see the gfx bench 3.0 results? The snapdragon 600 chip in the moto x)(it’s the worst version of the adreno 320, alu 64 instead of alu 96 like the adreno 320 of the s4)
Take for example the $156 Gionee elife e7. It’s ridiculous that a phone of $156 with a 1,5 year old chip outperforms a brand new $290, divine -according to some Med-iA-Sheeps, nice nickname for Mediatek fans by the way – phone called the LeTv on GPU.
So, let’s not even think about the s600, which is more than 2 years old and isn’t ins tore anymore.
And if you read my experience of the importance of GPU for apps nowadays you would laugh and say: MediaTek is a ridiculous brand but with a brilliant Marketing team, that let people believe it’s really high-end.
Conclusion (If response is too long with this hot weather)
helio x10 is a shame for the (high) price you pay, if you want a MediaTek buy a cheap phone with a mtk chip (max. the mtk 6752) because their highest chip will always be outperformed by a old snapdragon chip. (810>805>801>800>600) and even the 5 generations old s600 performs better with the built-in GPU.
Helio x10 gpu is even more worse than the adreno 320 (s600). It’s a big shame, Crapiatek, shame on you! The Helio x10 results were even lower than I predicted.
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A lot of MediaTek fans will be angry with me because I said something they didn’t like about their favourite Mediatek. But hey! It’s your choice to buy a MediaTek phone that is being outperformed by a old snapdragon chip.
I don’t have to justify buying a MediaTek phone, because I don’t. If you are happy justifying your buy, be happy with it, I don’t force you to buy a snapdragon phone.
You get your own source being used against you:
*comment:* Like I said above in an other comment, only use the onscreen benchmarks with no big bottleneck, offscreen is virtual, forced resolution so the cpu plays a bigger part than in real life.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&&did1=26421749&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200&did2=6255&os2=Android&api2=gl&hwtype2=GPU&hwname2=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+320
I have made a lot of grammar mistakes, I hate them but every long response of my does have them :/
First of all my phone has Adreno 330 GPU in it.
Secondly only GFXBench 3.1 benchmark is Manhattan 3.1. Older devices didn’t benchmarked with it. So these results are from 3.0 already except Manhattan 3.1.
Lastly it’s scores better than Samsung S4 too onscreen and offscreen both.
Gionee E7 that cheap because of inventory cleaning. And it isn’t faster than LeTV X600 anyway. And you know it has Adreno 330. And you are trying to convince people its slower than Adreno 320.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&&did1=22805144&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+%28TM%29+330&did2=25770873&os2=Android&api2=gl&hwtype2=GPU&hwname2=Imagination+Technologies+PowerVR+Rogue+G6200
Keep liking your own comments.
A53 are on pair with Kraits MHz/MHz… Adrenos have problems with any kind of texture surface transform + no suport for half precision float.
There whose much development from community for Snapdragons thats why they run better.
Everything based on browsing of any kind is single cpu bounded & that makes 60% of all tasks that we actually use.
Morzila Is working first multicore implementationi…
Intel’s old Z3580 is current king of the hill in upper mid class & only thanks to su financing products based on their SoC’s.
P’s there is interesting work on tuning p state driver for Atom’s in Linux 4.1 kernel resulting in two digits gains.
They have exactly the same generation displays – 1080p.
What huge advantages has MX5, except some doubtful extras like fingerprint scanner? I dont see them.
As we are talking about SoCs, not about swappable videoadapters, the performance showed in gflops is likely to be true
Of course, octa core a53/57 monster is much much stronger CPU than old s800, but in graphic tests it is slightly behind, because these tests measure CPU preformance too (this is SoC!)
So, who knows, what would we have if this GPU would be built into s801-like cpu. Results two times worse look quite probable
Pleas tell me is this phone have DUAL SIM??? :/
Yes, it is, it is also written in the article
Honnor 7 have IMX230 camera. Which camera have Meizu MX5???
And which is processor better?
Meizu MX5 has IMX220 with improved software algarithms and a new 6P lens. So basically the same camera sensor size from MX4, not the newest one.
Thx a lot Jason45 🙂
So you think the IMX220 fom Meizu mx5 will be better then IMX220?
IMX 220 and 230 are built on the same exact architecture its like the 135 and 214. There is no “better” one as it all comes down to the optics and software each setup uses among other things. If both were in the same phone with the same exact setup most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
The Honor 7 got sapphire glass protection. How about the lens protection on MX5?
Havent heard anything specific yet but Meizu always uses good optics no doubt that did on this one either.
No Ubuntu version… 🙁
Considering they just launched the Mx4 Ubuntu and its not even available anywhere but Europe I wouldnt expect an Ubuntu version for at least 6 months.
It was my anxiety writing before… I know it will be, at the very least, 6 months of waiting (my guess is another year, or even more). It’s been a long, long time since the Ubuntu Edge project launch, and I haven’t been really excited since then (like if I were asexual, hehe).
I am actually currently using an Ubuntu BQ 4,5 for the 30 days. The phone itself is one of the worst I ever used but Ubuntu is impressing me.
Yeah! People rant about it… but I can admire the way Canonical has approached the UI scene. Time ago, with the Nokia N9 I felt something similar, but this thing is the real deal. Any insights you’d like to share? I’m definitely going to give it more than a try 😉
You can follow my progress in the Gizchina forums. Ill be updating it every few days with my thoughts. This weekend will be the first time I get to spend extended time with it.
Sure, I’ll be waiting, good to have you around.
53,000 AnTuTu for 2015 Q2 Phone is impressive? Really Andy? So what will you say for phones which have already been crossing the 60,000 mark for a while now?
I’ve said it again, and I will say it again – “While AnTuTu is not the be-all and end-all, there is massive credibility for phones which make it past 60,000 on AnTuTu, in terms of hardware, rom optimization and the overall experience. AnTuTu isn’t the only thing that matters, but unlike some trolls and pseudo-experts who always say it’s a mere number, it is not. Sure it can be rigged and what not, but rigging doesn’t get you to peak scores near 70,000”
I will not respect any 2015 just-released or about-to-be-released flagship which doesn’t cross the 60,000 mark, sorry. For phones which don’t claim to be flagships, fine. A score of 32-33,000 is near damned perfect, ensuring a good experience. Heck, some mid-range 6752 phones regularly do 42,000+, which is an indicator of good performance.
But damn you Meizu, if you release a flagship in 2015 Q2 with top of the line specs and have the audacity of touting its 53,000 score. That is a 2014-mid-end score with last-gen processors. Not expected from a helio X10.
I’M DISAPPOINTED AND FEEL LIKE SUICIDE.
I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS.
Its a flagship at a budget range. Meizu has a another “pro” line if you weren’t aware. And crossing antutu score of Samsung phones might be your bench point of what is flagship, but that is your personal opinion and so you don’t have to shove that on everyone’s faces.
Stupid trash cunt, I said “I will not respect…. I feel disappointed”. What part of that is shoving my opinion on others? It’s a public discussion forum and I can post whatever I feel like and express my opinion as long as it doesn’t target others – and the reason I’m calling you a trash cunt is because you’re trying to point fingers and get personal.
If you don’t like stuff on a public forum, just hold your balls and scroll past it. Don’t waste your energy trying to be a pseudo tech guru handing out uncalled for do-and-don’t advice on a forum, stupid bitch.
15 yr old kid clearly. just read your post starting off by shoving your know it all opinion on Andi. Your nearly screaming through your entire post.
80 year old grumpy fag clearly. Going around telling people what not to do on an online discussion thread…… lowlife jerk.
Ahh name calling makes you look real mature…
What are you talking about?! Please list all these phones that ‘have been crossing 60,000 for a while’ and any 2014 phones over 50,000 for that matter. Go and buy the S6 if you want anything close to 70,000.
And why are you having a go at Andy? This phone and its score is very impressive at this price and as of now would be close to 2nd only behind the S6 in you precious Antutu ranking
All this bashing before anyone has even reviewed this phone in a real life situation, don’t understand peoples expectations?
As a Xioami fanboy this could be the phone that moves me away from them. I love MIUI and 1999 for a 32gb phone with these specs is a steal.
I’m sold too
So far I actually like Ubuntu, haven’t done anything in depth with it yet but in the few hours I spent with it I am impressed. Might wait for an Ubuntu Mx5 to come out and buy that.
Tell us more …
or send a review @andi! 😉
You can follow my progress in the Gizchina forums I will be updating it every few days as I get more in depth with the phone.
Oh! Gizchina-Forums! THX! 🙂
No problem Ill be updating it this weekend.
Haha, I just hope that after resellers the Meizu MX5 will not be sold around $400. It is amazing looking phone with killer specs. I was so excited to buy a Xiaomi phone but this MX5 is tempting me to be honest.
I’m still planning on getting my Mi3 in July and may stick with MIUI v6 unless Ivan’s 5.1 AOSP Rom (or other Lollipop Rom proves otherwise) !
Did you get your BQ Ubuntu phone:
http://www.bq.com/gb/aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition
Link please 🙂
is their bootloader locked?
Havent checked it yet. To be honest ive only spent about an hour with it have been so busy with work this week.
Always is on Meizu phones.
that sucks
Same price as the LeTV, but with slightly better specs. Yeah.
What??? MTK6795 but no super slow motion and slowmotion???? No 249fps and no 480fps??? WHY?
Good point! Lets wait and see …
How long does it generally take before resellers start selling them after launch? I like the fact that its dual sim 🙂
Usually some resellers will start to sell it as soon as a week after launch but the price will be out of this world.
Damn :-). I have sent back my M1 for replacement and the reseller has confirmed that Meizu has stopped making them and so I can’t get a replacement. The only reason I never went for the Mx4 was because of the single sim thing. I was kinda hoping I could talk them down in price and get a Mx5(with paying in a $100 or so) :-). Now I need to figure out a worthy replacement.
if it has SD card in it….sh*t up and take my money!
This is a joke, take it accordingly.
You are greek, you have no money.
This is actually a “T” version of the 6795 which means that both CPU and GPU are clocked higher.
PVR 6200 is enough for current FHD gaming titles, but the ones that are gonna be out in say six months – maybe not.
On the other hand the Huawei Kirin 935 is no better, with the Ancient Mali MP628.
I personally would go for the Rogue in the Helio chipset.
I was thinking the same. The gpu in the zenfone 2 and the k3 note are way better I believe . Dont understand y give outdated gpus for current flagship. N all the noobs just look at ram
No mention of a micro SD card slot – is it possible? That was the only reason I waited for this phone instead of buying the LeTV…
there is no micro SD card slot in the Meizu MX5 !!
I had the same query..official site does not mention sd card
Two questions this phone has:
1. USB-C?
2. MHL?
800 mhz lte?
plz!
I hope they have. Need 800Mhz in The Netherlands
There’s no 800Mhz LTE support in the spec so I would doubt this.
where did you see those specs?
which specs? there are no specs about the mx5 fdd lte bands!
I’ve read the specs numerous times from various different sources and none of them mention 800Mhz LTE support. I really hope I’m wrong but I still haven’t been able to find anything that says otherwise. That means O2 here in the UK is out for LTE as it only uses 800Mhz.
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/92be34d9
HELIO 10 have 240fps and 480fps slow motion. LETV have 240fps but Meizu MX5 have 100fps!!!! WhY??? Will Meizu update with more fps latter? Andy? Someone can please tell me about this.
This is a big mistake of Meizu.
I wouldn’t say it’s a big mistake, that’s not exactly one of the most requested features of a smartphone by the average consumer.
“Flyme sources will also be made available on GitHub for developers to add their own tweaks and touches”
Great!
I can’t wait to try it out on my (future) UMI Iron. 🙂
Winner of the day IMO. Sorry Honor 7.
No. OIS???? :0
I sure hope so since this was one of if not the only issue with the MX4 camera! Anyone can confirm?
MX5: 350cd/m² (Amoled Display)
MX4: 500cd/m² (LED Display) very good to read in sunlight.
“Nit (nt) is a non-SI name also used for this unit (1 nt = 1 cd/m2).”
I got my information from Meizu product page about its specifications:
http://www.meizu.com/products/mx5/spec.html
One of their info must be wrong! 😉
What’s with the Useless stamp on it?
Andy, we need this phone compared with LeTv X600 soon
meizu is Excellent compeny,great phones with great Prices,the mx4 has very good cpu ,the 6795 need to be better ,and the best news is that meizu will post Flyme sources on GitHub !!!
This or the Asus Zenfone 2 4GB RAM/64GB ROM? I am leaning towards the Asus though considering its cheaper, has a better GPU, more RAM and also and SD Card too.
Any suggestions?
This looks a lot better than Zenfone IMO and It has a better camera on paper (still needs to be tested).
i like the Meizu better but i would wait to hear some review first.
this is more expensive, I bought the zenfone 2 4GB/32GB in gearbest at 265$ with free shipping, and I think that it will have better community support than meizu.
what about the promised 480fps video support in MT6795T from Mediatek ?
At the end of this page http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/hero-products/helio-X10/ you can see that mediatek say ”Specifications may vary by model. Multimedia features are subject to activation by end-products manufacturers.”
On the first picture, the white version is a lot smaller compared to the black one. Is the MX5 made in different sizes or is it just the picture?
i wont say the helio x10 (mt 6795) is worst. Iam worried about the Imagination PowerVR
G6200 (2 Clusters) clocked at 700Mhz will deliver only 89.6 GFLOPS but the both intel Atom Z3560 and Atom Z3580 used in zenfone 2 (64-bit quad core chip) having Imagination PowerVR G6430 (4 Clusters) clocked at just 533Mhz will deliver 136.4 GFLOPS. Also the chipset used in xiaomi Mi4 ie MSM8974AC (Snapdragon 801) having Adreno 330 clocked at 578 MHz will deliver 166.5 GFLOPS. So Adreno 330 > PowerVR G6430 (4 Clusters) > PowerVR
G6200 (2 Clusters). Moreover please dont judge the phone with only benchmark scores.
But considering the price point mtk chipset is a beast. IF YOU ARE A MEDIATEK FAN WAIT FOR HELIO X20 20nm process.But comparing with snap 810 which has a ddr4 Memory stil helio x20(mt 6797) will only have a LPDDR3 just clocked at 933Mhz with their tri cluster architecture. I think the gpu could be Mali 8xxMP4 will be clocked in between (600 to 850) mhz.People are confused with the gpu used in mtk 6595 which is PowerVR
G6200 (2 Clusters) clocked at 600Mhz will deliver only 76.8GFLOPS. The gpu used in mt6595 and mt6795 are same but clocked at different frequencies hence delivering different performance.
Anyone interested in the Ubuntu Phone, I will be spending the next 30 days (actually 27 now :0 )with one. I am trying to get more people into the forums so my progress will be made exclusively there. The more people that participate the more I will post. A few have asked me for the link it is below:
http://www.gizchina.com/forums/topic/ubuntu-phone-for-30-days/
Well the 64gb is more expensive and less featured then the oneplus two. So for cheaper then this you have a snapdragon 810 which doesnt overheat, has usb c, etc.
I guess the so called cheap flagships arent that cheap anymore lol
Do tell me a flagship from Samsung, Sony, Iphone, LG or other known brands, who can meet the price of Chinese budget flaghips ? Its more about some people new to Chinese phones expecting Chinese manufacturers to keep halfing the price of phone every year and probably in 2 years they expect a budget high spec phone for 500RMB.
just seeing its back it makes me bite an apple… meizu lost it… after the m9 they ve gone copy past stuff… and as for the 810.. both on mi note pro and on my letv s1pro they don’t overhead, warm yes but not as mud as other 810;s
Nubia z9 is not overheating either..
The dragon has been tamed. Lets see how oneplus 2 does.
yeah still not fuzzed about opo, never seen anyone giving a crap about them in China and w/o cyanogen i can’t see how they wanna make it their OS isn’t great and that bully-ish marketing without actually having the numbers to proof… they don’t even come clean on their parentage… i ve just worked with the leTV s1pro and its a nicer tool in terms of overall pck and availability
I think the front looks Apple esque the back looks nothing like an Apple, if anything it looks more like n HTC.
53,000 AnTuTu for 2015 Q2 Phone is impressive? Really Andy? So what will you say for phones which have already been crossing the 60,000 mark for a while now?
I’ve said it again, and I will say it again – “While AnTuTu is not the be-all and end-all, there is massive credibility for phones which make it past 60,000 on AnTuTu, in terms of hardware, rom optimization and the overall experience. AnTuTu isn’t the only thing that matters, but unlike some trolls and pseudo-experts who always say it’s a mere number, it is not. Sure it can be rigged and what not, but rigging doesn’t get you to peak scores near 70,000”
I will not respect any 2015 just-released or about-to-be-released flagship which doesn’t cross the 60,000 mark, sorry. For phones which don’t claim to be flagships, fine. A score of 32-33,000 is near damned perfect, ensuring a good experience. Heck, some mid-range 6752 phones regularly do 42,000+, which is an indicator of good performance.
But damn you Meizu, if you release a flagship in 2015 Q2 with top of the line specs and have the audacity of touting its 53,000 score. That is a 2014-mid-end score with last-gen processors. Not expected from a helio X10.
I’M DISAPPOINTED AND FEEL LIKE SUICIDE.
I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS.
Its a flagship at a budget range. Meizu has a another “pro” line if you weren’t aware. And crossing antutu score of Samsung phones might be your bench point of what is flagship, but that is your personal opinion and so you don’t have to shove that on everyone’s faces.
Stupid trash cunt, I said “I will not respect…. I feel disappointed”. What part of that is shoving my opinion on others? It’s a public discussion forum and I can post whatever I feel like and express my opinion as long as it doesn’t target others – and the reason I’m calling you a trash cunt is because you’re trying to point fingers and get personal.
If you don’t like stuff on a public forum, just hold your balls and scroll past it. Don’t waste your energy trying to be a pseudo tech guru handing out uncalled for do-and-don’t advice on a forum, stupid bitch.
15 yr old kid clearly. just read your post starting off by shoving your know it all opinion on Andi. Your nearly screaming through your entire post.
What are you talking about?! Please list all these phones that ‘have been crossing 60,000 for a while’ and any 2014 phones over 50,000 for that matter. Go and buy the S6 if you want anything close to 70,000.
And why are you having a go at Andy? This phone and its score is very impressive at this price and as of now would be close to 2nd only behind the S6 in you precious Antutu ranking
All this bashing before anyone has even reviewed this phone in a real life situation, don’t understand peoples expectations?
80 year old grumpy fag clearly. Going around telling people what not to do on an online discussion thread…… lowlife jerk.
Ahh name calling makes you look real mature…
On the first picture, the white version is a lot smaller compared to the black one. Is the MX5 made in different sizes or is it just the picture?
What is this? HELIO 10??? But MX5 didint have nothing what Helio10 have:
120Hz FHD display technology
MiraVision
Industry-leading picture quality technology (color/sharpness/contrast)
SmartScreen
ClearMotion
InstantFocus
Super Slow-Motion
Where are al this things???
Yes, this phone is nit good at ALL!!!! They foolish us all!!!!
just seeing its back it makes me bite an apple… meizu lost it… after the m9 they ve gone copy past stuff… and as for the 810.. both on mi note pro and on my letv s1pro they don’t overhead, warm yes but not as mud as other 810;s
Nubia z9 is not overheating either..
The dragon has been tamed. Lets see how oneplus 2 does.
yeah still not fuzzed about opo, never seen anyone giving a crap about them in China and w/o cyanogen i can’t see how they wanna make it their OS isn’t great and that bully-ish marketing without actually having the numbers to proof… they don’t even come clean on their parentage… i ve just worked with the leTV s1pro and its a nicer tool in terms of overall pck and availability
I think the front looks Apple esque the back looks nothing like an Apple, if anything it looks more like n HTC.
What is this? HELIO 10??? But MX5 didint have nothing what Helio10 have:
120Hz FHD display technology
MiraVision
Industry-leading picture quality technology (color/sharpness/contrast)
SmartScreen
ClearMotion
InstantFocus
Super Slow-Motion
Where are al this things???
Yes, this phone is nit good at ALL!!!! They foolish us all!!!!
Hope to see some real live photo samples soon!
Any built-in Sabre 9018 audio chip like the MX4?
The best addition they made from the MX4 to the MX5 is the Dual SIM part. Nano or not, it is just a must on a phone. Anything else is useless to me, no matter how good the specs are. If it does have Band20 (800mhz) then it might just be my next phone.
Hope to see some real live photo samples soon!
Any built-in Sabre 9018 audio chip like the MX4?
The best addition they made from the MX4 to the MX5 is the Dual SIM part. Nano or not, it is just a must on a phone. Anything else is useless to me, no matter how good the specs are. If it does have Band20 (800mhz) then it might just be my next phone.
Micro SD ?
Not impressed. I think I will seek out a different Helio 10 based phone. The front camera needed to be 8MP and with the existing specs, you’d want the price reduced by a quarter or more.
Because 8MP would equate to better pictures? You do realize that MP is meaningless especially when talking about front facing cameras?
So next phone you’re aiming for 2MP cams.
No but if the difference is between 8 and 13 I wouldn’t judge it by the numbers, I would judge it by the actual results of the camera. The best cell phone camera available right now (not including one off’s like Lumia 1020) is on the iPhone 6. It uses an 8mp sensor but it has excellent optics and software. It is the measuring stick for all other phones. It takes better pictures than phones with 20mp sensors. Microsoft usually has excellent camera’s that range from 6mp to 13mp and take better pictures than comparable phones with 13, 16 or 20mp. The reason? They use Carl Zeiss Optics which are incredible and they have very good software. MP is only important up to a certain point, once you get past 8mp the difference is in the optics, aperture, sensor size and software used.
Thanks for a good intelligent response. I agree with your statement. The issue is front facing cameras still are under the pixel dimensions needed for a clear real look.
For front facing cameras the single most important thing is the lighting. With no flash at play and usually a lower quality sensor than the rear, the sensor needs to be able to draw in as much light as possible. Giving the front camera here a 2.0 aperture is a lot bigger than giving it an 8mp sensor.
Micro SD ?
Not impressed. I think I will seek out a different Helio 10 based phone. The front camera needed to be 8MP and with the existing specs, you’d want the price reduced by a quarter or more.
Because 8MP would equate to better pictures? You do realize that MP is meaningless especially when talking about front facing cameras?
So next phone you’re aiming for 2MP cams.
No but if the difference is between 8 and 13 I wouldn’t judge it by the numbers, I would judge it by the actual results of the camera. The best cell phone camera available right now (not including one off’s like Lumia 1020) is on the iPhone 6. It uses an 8mp sensor but it has excellent optics and software. It is the measuring stick for all other phones. It takes better pictures than phones with 20mp sensors. Microsoft usually has excellent camera’s that range from 6mp to 13mp and take better pictures than comparable phones with 13, 16 or 20mp. The reason? They use Carl Zeiss Optics which are incredible and they have very good software. MP is only important up to a certain point, once you get past 8mp the difference is in the optics, aperture, sensor size and software used.
Thanks for a good intelligent response. I agree with your statement. The issue is front facing cameras still are under the pixel dimensions needed for a clear real look.
For front facing cameras the single most important thing is the lighting. With no flash at play and usually a lower quality sensor than the rear, the sensor needs to be able to draw in as much light as possible. Giving the front camera here a 2.0 aperture is a lot bigger than giving it an 8mp sensor.
This phone reflects Meizu 2015, a company newly invested by MediaTek, threatened by ZTE over the capacitive circle, and now firmly entrenched in the rapid-release wars of the Chinese marketplace. It’s a bit sad because Meizu 2015 is not the company Jack Wong founded. Factor in the the other huge investment by Alibaba and Meizu will be one of the long-term winners in China, but that success will come through much more conventional products.
so, this year mx5 will not the best on antutu? 🙁
maybe the PRo with x20 will be
This phone reflects Meizu 2015, a company newly invested by MediaTek, threatened by ZTE over the capacitive circle, and now firmly entrenched in the rapid-release wars of the Chinese marketplace. It’s a bit sad because Meizu 2015 is not the company Jack Wong founded. Factor in the the other huge investment by Alibaba and Meizu will be one of the long-term winners in China, but that success will come through much more conventional products.
so, this year mx5 will not the best on antutu? 🙁
maybe the PRo with x20 will be
NFC? A phone without NFC is not a flagship..
Can honestly say I have never used NFC on a phone and have no plans to ever do so.
Then you are behind the times, I only pay for shopping using contactless on my phone.
I live 6-8 months out of the year in a country where NFC is nearly non existent. Even if it was I wouldn’t want to use it, I love technology but that just isn’t something that excites me.
It’s more about convenience than excitement. I don’t like carrying a wallet around so touching my phone to a scanner is far better.
I pay for everything with cash Anyways.
NFC? A phone without NFC is not a flagship..
Can honestly say I have never used NFC on a phone and have no plans to ever do so.
Then you are behind the times, I only pay for shopping using contactless on my phone.
I live 6-8 months out of the year in a country where NFC is nearly non existent. Even if it was I wouldn’t want to use it, I love technology but that just isn’t something that excites me.
It’s more about convenience than excitement. I don’t like carrying a wallet around so touching my phone to a scanner is far better.
I pay for everything with cash Anyways.
The hardware of the phone, the camera, all are capable of 1080P 480fps video. Only limited by software i think. Unless im missing something big.
Lets wait for XDA devs to implement this. 😀
The hardware of the phone, the camera, all are capable of 1080P 480fps video. Only limited by software i think. Unless im missing something big.
Lets wait for XDA devs to implement this. 😀
Does the MX5 support Wireless QI charging? Any advice appreciated.. Thanks
it has metal body so it´s impossible
Does the MX5 support Wireless QI charging? Any advice appreciated.. Thanks
it has metal body so it´s impossible