OnePlus thanks its partners for their contributions to the OnePlus 2

Just think of how big they could have been and how virtually no one is talking about the One Plus Two now. Most of their success last year was due to two things: CM (majority of their press) and available for people in the west for same price as China. Without either of those we are seeing how “good” their marketing department is.

Sure the news is all over, but read the comments from the fans. There isn’t nearly as much as excitement this time around. In fact there is a lot more skepticism even from diehard OPO fans. The lead up to the One Plus One was much greater than what we are seeing now. And most of that was because of Price and CM. They don’t have either of those on their side this year (if the price leaks are true).

They never were an “unknown quantity”, they marketed themselves as one but from day 1 (actually well before day 1) they were a leg of OPPO. A way for OPPO to sell their phones in countries where they don’t have the best of names/reputations.

A rationale person would look at the other reviews of phones with the 810, read the tens of thousands of forum posts about problems with the 810 and not expect anything different from the OPO. A rationale company would steer far away from the SD 810 and either use the Exnyos 7420, Helios or wait for the SD 820.

“People didn’t know anything about OPPO for that matter”. Except for the millions who bought an OPPO in 2014 and the millions of people who live near one of the 150,000 retail outlets OPPO has worldwide in 18 different markets. The company One Plus was founded in 2013 with one stockholder, OPPO. The One itself is a a near copy of OPPO’s own Find 7 with minor aesthetic differences. One Plus is and always has been a shell company for OPPO. No different than ZTE and Nubia, the latter just doesn’t try to hide the connection like OPO does.

There is only so much you can do for a poorly designed SoC, there isn’t some magic trick that OPO can do to suddenly cure all the problems associated with the SD 810. They can underclock it which will kill its performance but won’t cause it to overheat. I guess you think Xiaomi, HTC, Sony and the rest are really dumb because they have all had problems with the 810 despite them all trying to tweak it.

HTC underclocked it in a software update (as did a few others), the result was the performance of the phone was worse than the One M8 which uses the SD 801 (same chip found in the One Plus One). But even so it still suffers from overheating because the chip is so poorly designed. The problem is the A57 cores start to overheat around 1.2 GHz, when that happens the SoC goes into throttle mode to prevent the entire SoC from overheating. The SD 615 suffers from the same problems. Underclocking can only help so much.

I realize you are a huge fan of OPO, but they really screwed up by using that SoC, just another in their long list of blunders. Had they gone with the SD 808/805 or Samsung Exnyos this would have been a beast of a phone.

No good reason? Invite system, Smash the Past, Ladies First, Months of lying about the invite system disappearing, lying about being a small startup. Take your pick there are plenty more too. The sad part is they have a great product and don’t need to resort to lies and crazy marketing stunts.

Ladies first was one of the biggest blunders they ever came up with. Don’t believe me go to Google and type in “oneplus ladies first”. Look at how many articles come up calling it out for being degrading, sexist, stupid and moronic. You can neither confirm nor deny? Do you not know how to use the internet? It’s incredibly simple. They started around August telling consumers the invite system was going to be gone by October and the “pre order” system would be in it’s place. You couldn’t actually buy one invite free until April of this year.

Their marketing stunts aren’t what made them so successful, CM was. Without CM they would have been Nubia. Without CM their newest phone hasn’t had near the hype the previous one did. As far as you know they are a small startup. Here you go:

“But a document from the Shenzhen Municipal Market Supervisory Authority (SIPO) files shows that OnePlus has one institutional stockholder and that is (drum roll please) Oppo. ” – Phone Arena.

OnePlus webpage when it was first launched listed the following:

Whoisology lists oneplus.net’s admin as:

Name: zhou jin (117)

Org.: GUANGDONG OPPO MOBILE TELECOMMUNICATIONS CORP.,LTD (3)

Email: zhoujin1689@oppo.com (2)

Small startups don’t use a much larger companies name by mistake when registering their website. In fact that usually leads to a lawsuit.

I have an MBA in marketing and have been doing it most of my adult life, so yes I am pretty close to an expert. Stunts they pulled and the negative publicity associated with it, absolutely killed their brand reputation in the west. They could have sold three times as many phones in the west as they did without those stunts. I dont expect a die hard OP fanboy to understand any of this though.

I don’t hate OnePlus at all, I have admitted all along they make very good phones I just don’t agree with their marketing. As someone who is obviously a huge OnePlus fanboy you will never be able to admit they have made any mistakes. It’s obvious by your posts, they are the perfect company in your eyes. That’s what fanboys do, right?

I don’t assume anything your defending them to the death without admitting so much as once they made a single mistake. I have said all along and you can check my past comments, they make good phones but bad business decisions. Most in the media agree with me, that isn’t “hating” them it is telling it like it is. I said the same thing about Xiaomi recently for the Mi4i and Mi Note Pro, and I am a fan of theirs. I can admit when my favorite messes up, you can’t.

You do realize the world is a lot bigger than just the US right? OPPO is known all over the world. As for a shell company its a which serves as a vehicle for business transactions without itself having any significant assets or operations. OPO has one shareholder, OPPO. A lot of the patents for the One Plus One were filed by OPPO months before OP even existed officially. They are not the small startup with limited resources they claim to be. They are en extension of BBK (owners of OPPO and Vivo) one of the larger OEM’s in China.