Gionee’s Elife S7 might not be the most popular phone around, but the device has a lot going for it. For one, it is built like a tank (in the literal sense).
The acclaim might have prompted Gionee to make a smaller version of the phone. Gionee, in the past, have been known to announce phones with distinct designs for the same model number, with ‘mini’ being the differentiating factor. The Elife E7 mini, a phone with a rotating camera, is one such phone (smaller sibling to the full sized E7).
The new GN9007 that leaked via TENAA appears to have (wait for it) a little Doogee in its design. Take a look for yourself.
From the leaked images, I can tell that the GN9007 has curved glass on the front and rear. The Elife S7 has glass on both sides too, the difference is only in the fact that it isn’t the curved variety. White and Black color variants of the Gionee GN9007 are reported.
It’ll be powered by a 1.3GHz processor (MT6753? The Elife S7 has the MT6752), and will reportedly offer a microSD slot (hybrid SIM tray most likely) with a camera combo of a 13 mega-pixel rear and an 8 mega-pixel front. The octa-core processor is expected to come with 2GB of RAM to boot.
It’ll also have a rather slender 144.9×69.8×6 mm body. Gionee’s passion for making beautifully slim phones seems to be going nowhere for now, and we aren’t complaining.
and expect it to cost $300 … Gionee for u -_- !
This is Gionee, so expect $400+!
ridiculous , aint they ?
Why are you so hyped about 64 bit/32 bit processors The Mt6752 doesnt come close to the snapdragon 800 in overall performance
i believe that future proofing should be at fore of every techie’s mind …
im not the one to buy mobiles every 3 months …
so 64 bit is the very least of a future proofing one can do… this is the age of 64 bit , most apps in future will be optimized for 64 bit and God knows how people will take advantage of the new tech !!
But right now most apps aren’t optimized for 64 bit and by the time they are you will be ready to buy a new phone. I wouldn’t ignore 32 bit at all right now, you can still get some incredible phones for a low price (like all of last years flagship) that perform equal or better to most phones today.
a few names would be most appreciated 🙂
It is not 32b vs 64b what matters. What makes the difference is the architecture ARMv7 vs ARMv8. The newer one is significantly more powerful then the older and uses less energy.
It is true that Snapdragon 800 ha much better GPU then MTK6752. But the CPU part of MediaTek’s chip is more powerful because of the new architecture.
I have the feeling that you mix overall performance including GPU with CPU-only technologies. That doesn’t make much sense…
The technology doesn’t mean a thing if the OS isnt optimized and can’t take advantage of it. Right now Android 5.0 is in the very early stages of taking advantage of all the performance increases from Arm 7 to Arm 8. In 1-2 years Arm8 will offer clear advantages like you mentioned, but right now those advantages mostly exist on paper and not in execution.
Look at the performance difference between MT6582 (ARMv7) and MT6735 (ARMv8). The newer CPU has almost doubled the performance in GeekBench while both are 1,3GHz low power quadcore chips from the same company with the same manufacturing process. Real life experience shows the huge difference too.
ARMv8 is much more powerful at the same CPU frequency even without any optimizations in compiler and 64bit support. It is the chip architecture, not 64bit or new instruction sets, what makes the main difference.
Now compare the 6582 to the SD410. You want to use Geekbench for the comparison?
6582 – Single Core 456, Multicore – 1161
SD410 – Single Core 455, Multicore – 1326
In terms of real world performance the 410 offers little to no performance increase over the much older 6582, except when it comes to graphics. These are two chips running the same frequency. The Chip Architecture is only one part of performance. We can sit here and cherry pick different SoC’s to compare all day but it really has very little do with the original topic of whether he should avoid 32 bit phones. The answer is it all depends on the chipset used. A SD 801 is still a very fast chipset and can give you performance that comes very close to the Helios X10 and SD805.
Right now = Zero advantage
yeah … well lets see at the end of the year …
After 4 years – We two arguing on the GizFuture Forums
*well lets see at the end of the year*
and we’ll both be thanking the day we met 😀
Considering your savings i wonder even if you buy one phone per year
but i don’t have that much money :'(
Not really, I gladly pay more for Gionee phones because I know I am going to get one of the best build qualities available in a phone where everything just works. I also know the cameras are going to be excellent and they have amazing customer service. Sometime’s it is worth it to pay for the peace of mind knowing you’re going to get amazing quality and support.
so then tell me , if Gionee is like a Godfather of Qmobile , then why do they suck so hard in Pakistan 🙁
why cant i get the same quality phones as u do 🙁
Which phones did you try? I have used a few Blu devices (similar to Qmobile only for US) and they were all very well built.
i have tried some qmobile devices off my friends … they don’t have a good camera or build quality like you boast … what could be the difference ?
Gionee is just the OEM (builder) and ODM (designer) of the phones. The companies still select the components that go into them, some like Blu offer exact 1:1 copies except for they offer the correct LTE/3G bands for their countries. Qmobile might be using cheaper components. Another thing is the software, Blu uses Gionee’s Amigo on some phones, other ship with their own OS. Their own is basically stock with a few tweaks added to the menu. Qmobile could be using their own. But I have used the following Gionee or Blu phones and all have had very good cameras (for their class):
Blu Life Play (Gionee E3)
Blu Vivo IV (Gionee S5.5)
Blu Vivo Air (Gionee S5.1, average camera with stock camera app, very good with Lenovo Super Camera)
Gionee Elife E7 (still one of the best camera’s I have ever used)
Gionee Elife E6
thanks … MANY THANKS for clarifying that !
now i know what might be causing Qmobiles to offer cheap phones here … the components -_- , well they SUCK !
hopefully OTHER better chinese companies come here .. preferably some should DOUBLE as OEM of their OWN devices so we dont see cheapshat knockoffs everywhere !
actually…. not all Qmobile phones are Gionees…
then ?
(p.s = i wish they were more like Gionee’s actual range … i’d LOVE to buy those)
….. they are frm different ODMs including some from gionee …. many of them are also sold by micromax in india with different names…. recently the qmobile s5 is also released in india by micromax as Canvas Selfie 3.
good GOD !
this is a vicious circle , i believe 🙁
why can’t Gionee just come up and sweep away all these miserable wannabees ?
Just being an OEM won’t guarantee quality. Doogee is a prime example. They are brand that is owned by an OEM.
… well said…. i have also used e3… and a frend of mine had S5.5….. both r rock solid hardware…. and had good cams….
ridiculous , aint they ?
This is Gionee, so expect $400+!
Yes, that would be too much. Since you are chasing cheap and powerfull phones, do you know that you can get Gionee E7 for about 150-160 USD? It has powerfull hardware and very good camera. Support and OTA isn’t really great, though.
and i believe its 32 bit … ?
yeah , i have gone thru this before 😀
32 bit doesn’t matter, it is just intern structure of processing unit. It doesn’t mean anything, it’s just marketing. Gionee E7 has Snapdragon 800, 3 GB of RAM, 5,5″ Full HD display and VERY GOOD camera. That is bargain for just 150-160 USD:.
but lollipop 5.0 … its only for 64 bit , right ?
A 32 bit SoC will still work on a 64 bit Android OS and reverse. 64 bit offers some advanced features in theory, but in execution the benefits aren’t tangible yet. One of the biggest advantages is more memory support and better efficiency. Since you can’t manually upgrade a phone’s RAM it is of very little use for the future. Google is still scratching the surface of what Android can do with a 64 bit platform, and 99% apps are still written for 32 bit. It will be another 2 years at least till 64 bit offers clear advantages.
Hi guys. I agree with everything you said, but I don’t think its possible to install a 64bit OS on a 32bit SOC. It does work the other way though. At least that’s with PC’s, I am sure it must apply to phone SOC’s as well. But surely there is a 32bit version of Lollipop anyways.
I should have been more clear I was talking specifically about Android in this case, not OS’s in general. On Android 5.0 you can because of ART(Android Runtime). ART was designed to work on either 32 bit or 64 bit SoC’s.
ok, thanks. It makes sense that they have written it to run on both since there are still a lot of 32bit devices around.
Android is opensource. That means that the manufacturers have access to the sources they get binary drivers from HW suppliers and then they compile the Linux kernel, Android and add programs to the ROM (like Google Services, manufacturer bloatware etc.)
The sources are identical for all HW. But during compiling, you have to define, for which architecture you want to compile. It can be ARMv6, ARMv7, ARMv8 (that’s 64bit), x86 (Atom Z2xxx) or x86-64 (Atom Z3xxx). Some platforms are backward compatible. So ARMv8 can run code compiled for ARMv7 and x86-64 can run x86 code. But such code won’t be as fast as if it was compiled for the correct platform.
Android is Linux. You can not directly compare it to Windows on PC, which is closed source and Microsoft only releases compiled versions of it. That is why it only runs on x86 and x86-64, no other platforms are supported, while Linux supports a lot of HW architectures.
No, It is the first version which takes advantage of 64bit but runs on 32bit too. There is for example Lollipop for my Doogee DG700 with MT6582.
wat about 5.1 ?
Same as 5.0 and 6.0.
and i believe its 32 bit … ?
yeah , i have gone thru this before 😀
Software support is slow but customer support is excellent.
Yes, that would be too much. Since you are chasing cheap and powerfull phones, do you know that you can get Gionee E7 for about 150-160 USD? It has powerfull hardware and very good camera. Support and OTA isn’t really great, though.
and expect it to cost $300 … Gionee for u -_- !
and expect it to cost $300 … Gionee for u -_- !
This is Gionee, so expect $400+!
Yes, that would be too much. Since you are chasing cheap and powerfull phones, do you know that you can get Gionee E7 for about 150-160 USD? It has powerfull hardware and very good camera. Support and OTA isn’t really great, though.
and i believe its 32 bit … ?
yeah , i have gone thru this before 😀
ridiculous , aint they ?
Why are you so hyped about 64 bit/32 bit processors The Mt6752 doesnt come close to the snapdragon 800 in overall performance
32 bit doesn’t matter, it is just intern structure of processing unit. It doesn’t mean anything, it’s just marketing. Gionee E7 has Snapdragon 800, 3 GB of RAM, 5,5″ Full HD display and VERY GOOD camera. That is bargain for just 150-160 USD:.
but lollipop 5.0 … its only for 64 bit , right ?
i believe that future proofing should be at fore of every techie’s mind …
im not the one to buy mobiles every 3 months …
so 64 bit is the very least of a future proofing one can do… this is the age of 64 bit , most apps in future will be optimized for 64 bit and God knows how people will take advantage of the new tech !!
A 32 bit SoC will still work on a 64 bit Android OS and reverse. 64 bit offers some advanced features in theory, but in execution the benefits aren’t tangible yet. One of the biggest advantages is more memory support and better efficiency. Since you can’t manually upgrade a phone’s RAM it is of very little use for the future. Google is still scratching the surface of what Android can do with a 64 bit platform, and 99% apps are still written for 32 bit. It will be another 2 years at least till 64 bit offers clear advantages.
Not really, I gladly pay more for Gionee phones because I know I am going to get one of the best build qualities available in a phone where everything just works. I also know the cameras are going to be excellent and they have amazing customer service. Sometime’s it is worth it to pay for the peace of mind knowing you’re going to get amazing quality and support.
But right now most apps aren’t optimized for 64 bit and by the time they are you will be ready to buy a new phone. I wouldn’t ignore 32 bit at all right now, you can still get some incredible phones for a low price (like all of last years flagship) that perform equal or better to most phones today.
Hi guys. I agree with everything you said, but I don’t think its possible to install a 64bit OS on a 32bit SOC. It does work the other way though. At least that’s with PC’s, I am sure it must apply to phone SOC’s as well. But surely there is a 32bit version of Lollipop anyways.
I should have been more clear I was talking specifically about Android in this case, not OS’s in general. On Android 5.0 you can because of ART(Android Runtime). ART was designed to work on either 32 bit or 64 bit SoC’s.
Software support is slow but customer support is excellent.
ok, thanks. It makes sense that they have written it to run on both since there are still a lot of 32bit devices around.
so then tell me , if Gionee is like a Godfather of Qmobile , then why do they suck so hard in Pakistan 🙁
why cant i get the same quality phones as u do 🙁
a few names would be most appreciated 🙂
Which phones did you try? I have used a few Blu devices (similar to Qmobile only for US) and they were all very well built.
i have tried some qmobile devices off my friends … they don’t have a good camera or build quality like you boast … what could be the difference ?
Gionee is just the OEM (builder) and ODM (designer) of the phones. The companies still select the components that go into them, some like Blu offer exact 1:1 copies except for they offer the correct LTE/3G bands for their countries. Qmobile might be using cheaper components. Another thing is the software, Blu uses Gionee’s Amigo on some phones, other ship with their own OS. Their own is basically stock with a few tweaks added to the menu. Qmobile could be using their own. But I have used the following Gionee or Blu phones and all have had very good cameras (for their class):
Blu Life Play (Gionee E3)
Blu Vivo IV (Gionee S5.5)
Blu Vivo Air (Gionee S5.1, average camera with stock camera app, very good with Lenovo Super Camera)
Gionee Elife E7 (still one of the best camera’s I have ever used)
Gionee Elife E6
thanks … MANY THANKS for clarifying that !
now i know what might be causing Qmobiles to offer cheap phones here … the components -_- , well they SUCK !
hopefully OTHER better chinese companies come here .. preferably some should DOUBLE as OEM of their OWN devices so we dont see cheapshat knockoffs everywhere !
Right now = Zero advantage
… well said…. i have also used e3… and a frend of mine had S5.5….. both r rock solid hardware…. and had good cams….
actually…. not all Qmobile phones are Gionees…
Just being an OEM won’t guarantee quality. Doogee is a prime example. They are brand that is owned by an OEM.
No, It is the first version which takes advantage of 64bit but runs on 32bit too. There is for example Lollipop for my Doogee DG700 with MT6582.
Android is opensource. That means that the manufacturers have access to the sources they get binary drivers from HW suppliers and then they compile the Linux kernel, Android and add programs to the ROM (like Google Services, manufacturer bloatware etc.)
The sources are identical for all HW. But during compiling, you have to define, for which architecture you want to compile. It can be ARMv6, ARMv7, ARMv8 (that’s 64bit), x86 (Atom Z2xxx) or x86-64 (Atom Z3xxx). Some platforms are backward compatible. So ARMv8 can run code compiled for ARMv7 and x86-64 can run x86 code. But such code won’t be as fast as if it was compiled for the correct platform.
Android is Linux. You can not directly compare it to Windows on PC, which is closed source and Microsoft only releases compiled versions of it. That is why it only runs on x86 and x86-64, no other platforms are supported, while Linux supports a lot of HW architectures.
Considering your savings i wonder even if you buy one phone per year
then ?
(p.s = i wish they were more like Gionee’s actual range … i’d LOVE to buy those)
yeah … well lets see at the end of the year …
wat about 5.1 ?
but i don’t have that much money :'(
After 4 years – We two arguing on the GizFuture Forums
*well lets see at the end of the year*
….. they are frm different ODMs including some from gionee …. many of them are also sold by micromax in india with different names…. recently the qmobile s5 is also released in india by micromax as Canvas Selfie 3.
It is not 32b vs 64b what matters. What makes the difference is the architecture ARMv7 vs ARMv8. The newer one is significantly more powerful then the older and uses less energy.
It is true that Snapdragon 800 ha much better GPU then MTK6752. But the CPU part of MediaTek’s chip is more powerful because of the new architecture.
I have the feeling that you mix overall performance including GPU with CPU-only technologies. That doesn’t make much sense…
Same as 5.0 and 6.0.
and we’ll both be thanking the day we met 😀
good GOD !
this is a vicious circle , i believe 🙁
why can’t Gionee just come up and sweep away all these miserable wannabees ?
The technology doesn’t mean a thing if the OS isnt optimized and can’t take advantage of it. Right now Android 5.0 is in the very early stages of taking advantage of all the performance increases from Arm 7 to Arm 8. In 1-2 years Arm8 will offer clear advantages like you mentioned, but right now those advantages mostly exist on paper and not in execution.
Look at the performance difference between MT6582 (ARMv7) and MT6735 (ARMv8). The newer CPU has almost doubled the performance in GeekBench while both are 1,3GHz low power quadcore chips from the same company with the same manufacturing process. Real life experience shows the huge difference too.
ARMv8 is much more powerful at the same CPU frequency even without any optimizations in compiler and 64bit support. It is the chip architecture, not 64bit or new instruction sets, what makes the main difference.
Now compare the 6582 to the SD410. You want to use Geekbench for the comparison?
6582 – Single Core 456, Multicore – 1161
SD410 – Single Core 455, Multicore – 1326
In terms of real world performance the 410 offers little to no performance increase over the much older 6582, except when it comes to graphics. These are two chips running the same frequency. The Chip Architecture is only one part of performance. We can sit here and cherry pick different SoC’s to compare all day but it really has very little do with the original topic of whether he should avoid 32 bit phones. The answer is it all depends on the chipset used. A SD 801 is still a very fast chipset and can give you performance that comes very close to the Helios X10 and SD805.
those companies dont understand that 3GB is a must
we want multitasking and dont want laggy screens
Totally incorrect. It depends on the amount of Bloatware that is packaged with a Phone. A typical 2GB Chinese Droid with standard AOSP with light customisations has more free memory than a brand new 3GB Samsung S6 with out of the box.
Gotta agree with Ben, it really all depends on the phone and the software it runs. More RAM is always better but less doesn’t always mean lag and no multitasking.
Gionee…i think I’ve heard this name already, but i really can’t say where…
I’ve seen BLU use Gionee as ODM/supplier to some of their phones.
BLU is one of several companies that sell re-branded Gionee phones. Gionee is one of the biggest ODM and OEM’s in China. They also build phones for some of the bigger brands like HTC.
those companies dont understand that 3GB is a must
we want multitasking and dont want laggy screens
Totally incorrect. It depends on the amount of Bloatware that is packaged with a Phone. A typical 2GB Chinese Droid with standard AOSP with light customisations has more free memory than a brand new 3GB Samsung S6 with out of the box.
Gotta agree with Ben, it really all depends on the phone and the software it runs. More RAM is always better but less doesn’t always mean lag and no multitasking.
Gionee…i think I’ve heard this name already, but i really can’t say where…
I’ve seen BLU use Gionee as ODM/supplier to some of their phones.
BLU is one of several companies that sell re-branded Gionee phones. Gionee is one of the biggest ODM and OEM’s in China. They also build phones for some of the bigger brands like HTC.