JiaYu could be the first to offer Android M

In another shock announcement the team behind bringing us a new JiaYu phone have stated that they want to be the first Chinese phone maker to offer Android M, but there is a caveat.

I’m happy to let you all know that your comments on the new JiaYu phone news didn’t go unread. The team working on the new phone have been in touch again stating that they have read your comments and it has had them thinking.

The point which jolted the team was the mention that some readers not wanting a Medaitek MT6753 octacore processor. The reason that it concerned them is the fact that it is the precise SoC the company were planning to use. Before you switch off completely though there are reason.

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Apparently a number of processors had been considered. Options were the newer Helio X10, the MT6753 and the previous generation MT6595. The Helio X10 has been discounted as it would have pushed the price above their planned RRP for between $150 – $160 (international price) and would push the release time even closer to Christmas.

The MT6595 was in the running as it is still a potent chipset and pricing of the SoC has dropped considraly, however the 32bit nature of the SoC and lack of source availability has put them off.

The MT6753 is being considered as it will allow the new phone to have a low-price, what’s more the team behind the phone say that they will be able to release source code for this chip and can be one of the first to release Android M on their device.

So what do you think? Is having open source and an early Android M update worth running an MT6753? Let us know in the comments below.

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ruudjo
September 4, 2015
I wouldn’t mind paying a price marginally above the price range of $150 – $160 if Jiayu would deliver the Helio X10 soc, including LTE B20. And furthermore a good supportteam delivering OTA updates periodically.
- September 4, 2015
  I think the problem is that the pins on the X10 aren’t compatible with the final PCB they have. So it wouldn’t be a slight increase and it would but their launch date way to close to Christmas. The MT6752 might be better, but I don’t know if Mediatek have offered the source so them…. A tricky situation
  - Lars
    September 4, 2015
    Can you tell us anything about the screen size Andi? Will it be 5.5″ again or smaller?
    - Pol Pastrello
      September 4, 2015
      The 5.2″ seem to be the new “standard-size” (like the new Nexus 5). JiaYu have already a 5.5″, it would be foolish to maintain the same target-size! 🙂
      If JiaYu don’t adopt the Helio X10 they will be beaten by Xiaomi! 😉
      - Sirrr
        September 4, 2015
        🙁 If this will prove to be true… i am out. I really hoped for a compact phone from Jiayu from the first rumors of S4. But another 5.5” with MT6753…
        I am waiting and waiting and waiting for a decent budget size 4.7-5.0″, and when i say compact i don’t mean a 5.0″ of 145mm height…. but in vain….
        I think i will have to break the bank and go for Xiaomi Mi4c.
        You said that our comments on the new JiaYu phone news didn’t go unread. Bull…
        Jiayu, did you read the comments on the S4 renders stoty?!?!
        I guess not…
        
        Vlada
        September 6, 2015
        Exactly my words. If Jiayu really bankrups, this is the reason why. Releasing the same product in the same price range as all other companies. This is total failure.
        You can only be successful if you find holes in the market and fill them. You don’t have to search for the hole, it is absolutely clear: a well built powerful phone with compact size.
        quodvadis
        September 4, 2015
        lol, it’s a jiayu s3 with marginal/questionable improvements and a shittier chip.
        lol lol lol.
        Bruce S
        September 5, 2015
        Yep, I can’t understand why Jiayu would stick with a 6752 or go with 6753; it’s essentially the S3 all over again! The only differentiation would appear to be Android M! Presumably, they could upgrade existing S3’s to support this; so there’s something horribly wrong with this plan.
        
        Pol Pastrello
        September 4, 2015
        With MT6753 it will be a clone, with X10 will be an upgrade. 🙂
        quodvadis
        September 5, 2015
        MT6753 is a lot more shittier than MT6752, so it’s actually a downgrade. I want to see them do it just for the lulz.
        Lars
        September 5, 2015
        Ok thx, I’m out then. The least they could do is change the screen size to attract another group of people and differentiate themselves from the hundreds of MT6753 devices out there. What they are doing now is just releasing a downgraded S3. Unless the materials they use and the features are mind blowing, I really don’t think anyone is waiting for this (as you can see in the comments here). Missed opportunity imho.
        Marius Cirsta
        September 5, 2015
        Well OK but don’t we have enough 5.5 inch phones with MT6752 already ? I mean I know it’s a Jiayu but still …
        I already bought a Xiomi Note 2 because of the Helio X10, the price and the fact that I hope Xiaomi will provide updates and the source code.
  - Dante
    September 4, 2015
    mediatek dont want to offer even the source for android 5.1.1 for 6752 and most of the companies lol
- quodvadis
  September 4, 2015
  This, why is this so hard? Even if they have to scrap the current design, that would be better than sending the phone to die.

sinnerz2000
September 4, 2015
Isn’t the MT6752 a much better chipset? And it comes second to the Helios x10, wasn’t that considered?
- September 4, 2015
  The MT6752 might be better, but I don’t know if Mediatek have offered the source to them
  - Dante
    September 4, 2015
    They wont cuz they dont want to push the sales of an old chip
  - E8hffff
    September 4, 2015
    I think MediaTek has a kernel/android source public site, but they are slow to iron out bugs and is the reason many phones failed to get Lollipop quickly.
    I think this is hosted by someone working at Mediatek but not totally sure.
    https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/mediatek/
    The only thing I hate about Mediatek is their partition layouts and debugging/fastboot access.
    - Marco Lancaster
      September 5, 2015
      Those are sources for Android One devices, which uses old SoCs (MT6582) and hardly can be ported for another ones with the same soc, developers took a long time and blood to make something usable from those sources, other than Android 1 devices.
- Marco Lancaster
  September 4, 2015
  I think Mediatek has slowed down the production of MT6752 or perhaps discontinnued it, to make a more affordable (for them) and thats the way that they are living since always, they close development in old socs, support only the newers to grow up selling of it. Actually most companies do this, but MTK worst fact is that they don’t release sources.
- E8hffff
  September 4, 2015
  My guess is the Helio X10 is 140% higher price than the MTK6752, and probably 180% for the Helio X20. Consider royalties for what GFX core is deployed and ARM’s fees.

Rob
September 4, 2015
Couldn’t they just use the MT6752 again as it is the better of the 2 chips. Personally I think they should use the X10 and increase the price slightly as it would be a direct competitor to the Xiaomi Note 2. Their choice of cpu would mean it’s a backwards step (performance wise) to their own S3, which incidentally can be had for almost their ‘target price’ now.
- Bruce S
  September 4, 2015
  I’m with you Rob. Xiaomi have released the Redmi Note 2 with the X10 Helio at a price point that sets a benchmark which makes it difficult for us buyers to look elsewhere. To me Android M would be an incentive to look at a MT6752 (or MT6753); but Android M on the X10 would be the icing on the cake and a more compelling purchase option.
  - Rob
    September 4, 2015
    Of course we are all assuming that android m isn’t the buggy mess that lollipop is, it could be worse in which case it wouldn’t be an advantage! If jiayu are reading this then the x10 is the only way to go otherwise this is no different from the millions of other Chinese devices our there.
    - MaxPower
      September 5, 2015
      i agree with you about the Helio X10.
      they dont have to go crazy lowering the price, it doesnt matter how hard you try you will never be able to reach Xiaomi price for a long list of reasons.
      Add some features instead: metal frame, gorilla glass, fingerprint sensor, HiFi audio,release the code for Rom development.
      it’s not only about price, it’s about satisfy customers demands.
      - Rob
        September 5, 2015
        I totally agree, this should be about the overall package ie user experience. Unfortunately I think this will just dissappear into the sea of mediocre mid range handsets out there. They should stick to what they know, building great solid phones and not concentrate on price as building any product down to a price always fails. Let elephone, ulefone etc fight for that part of the market.
- ARUN SUBRAMANIAN
  September 4, 2015
  could not agree more,price at 200-220$,still ok with MT6795,what matters is overall package like RAM,speed and of course great camera quality!
- Steven Fox
  September 7, 2015
  6752 has been discontinued and MTK won`t release source for it, meaning it will never get anything above maybe Android 5.0 as far as updates go, like the good old 6592 that never made it past Kitkat and never will.

Jasper
September 4, 2015
I would personally pay even $250 if the phone was good. I really liked the S4’s specs, it would have been an ideal phone for me: https://www.gizchina.com/2015/03/27/purported-4-7-inch-jiayu-s4-details-revealed-include-64bit-chip-usb-c-and-more/
WearySky
September 4, 2015
Having reviewed another phone with the 6753 (the Meizu M2 Note), I can say that I am definitely soured on ever bothering with another MT6753 phone. I was super excited about the Doogee F5, till I realized that’s the chip that was in it. Noooo thanks.

Guaire
September 4, 2015
What about Helio P10? I think we can see first Helio P10 phones before end of the year.
Sirrr
September 4, 2015
… and what i was saying a couple of days back about Helio x10 and the price tag of $150 for Jiayu…? everyone…x10 x10 x10… batman….batman
But still a man can only hope…but until when
roni24
September 4, 2015
MT6753, forget about it
i rather have Xiaomi RedMi Note 2, with updates.

quodvadis
September 4, 2015
Have they ever tried putting their perspective as someone who’s buying a Chinese phone today? Among the tsunami of phones with subpar chips, they’re going to try to fight that wave by being another insignificant drop of water?
Bah, whatever, I just don’t care anymore. I probably will buy a Bluboo Xtouch instead, or a Redmi Note 2 depending on the availability of Prime version in my country. I’ll keep using my G4S regardless, that’ll make me remember that this company existed from time to time at least.

Burs
September 4, 2015
Let me think about it once again. Umm, still no. I was expecting at least 6752, if not 6795. I don’t mind cashing out a few extra bucks for more powerful SoC, otherwise new Jiayu will be just another phone. So 6753, 2/3GB ram, 5.5″, and don’t forget to put thick screen bezels 🙂 Perfect specs recipe nowadays.
quodvadis
September 4, 2015
Oh yeah, might as well aim for Christmas and go for Helio P10, and market the shit out of its features like the brightisp, the hifi audio performance, or the mali t860. Shine the brightest before dying, who knows if it’ll be their final fantasy instead.

CiroD
September 4, 2015
I think many of us will be more than happy to see a compact S3, MT6752, 4.7-5″ FHD, 3000+ mAh with S3 design and features
Lazar Prodanovic
September 4, 2015
How about upcoming S620 with open & transparent sources right before the Christmas & for price about 200$? It would kill Xiaomi Note 2, it would even kill new Nexus-es. It’s stupid to base a Android M phone on SoC that can’t really suport it’s new futures. & I know they never used a Qualcomm SoC but look at the general idea & possibility for long term suport.
- CiroD
  September 4, 2015
  JaYu S1 used a Snapdragon 600 SoC
- quodvadis
  September 5, 2015
  SD620 isn’t really any better than MTK6753 with its weakass GPU. And lol if you think that all Snapdragon will have long term support. Hint: they don’t, especially the cheaper ones.
  - Lazar Prodanovic
    September 5, 2015
    Think again about it it’s a totally different tire. I mentioned S620 not S615! We don’t know almost anything about new A510 except it support dynamic shading & hardware testilations (both will see suport in M). On the other hand all up to date MTK SoC’s don’t have those GPU futures (X20 will have with MALI T880 MP4). Besides S620 is market ready now. It would also resolve every possible LTE suport, their will be a public source code & maintenance for it at least for next 3 year’s.
    So what? You want a pice of shit up to 50% slower X10 for 15$ less cost in final product? Think again SoC is not priciest part of a product.
    - quodvadis
      September 5, 2015
      You can guess from its past trend, it won’t be more powerful than what Helio is using, that’s for sure. Even if it supports advance GPU mechanic, 99% of the apps out there won’t make use of it until years.
      So it’s market ready, but we don’t know anything about its gpu, but we know it’s 50% faster than X10 and cost $15 more?
      lol.
      - Lazar Prodanovic
        September 5, 2015
        Yes general purpose cores in S620 are A72s that are roughly 58% faster than A53 (in X10) & at 1.8GHz that make them up to 50% faster than A53 @ 2 GHz. Their is roughly also a 20% performance increase (by my estimate) in new QDSP compared to one in S810 so multimedia tasks should be pretty much advanced. Qualcomm hides it’s GPU blueprints like snake legs so don’t even expect to find out anything even remotely relevant. & I am pretty much certain thermal throttling will stay in normal limits as A72s are 25% more power efficient than A57s & yet clocked as S810s A57s in rev 2.0.
        I am not a noob or fun boy I criticize everyone (when they deserve it).
        
        quodvadis
        September 5, 2015
        So it’s all ‘estimation’ aka conjecture. And of course, it’s accompanied by the classic ad hominem. Nice job. 🙂
        These “market ready” chip sure isn’t in any phone right now though, strange…
        
        Lazar Prodanovic
        September 5, 2015
        You don’t have to look stupider than you are!
        QDSP V56 up to 800 MHz, QDSP 68 up to 1000 MHz. Same architecture & threading. So 20% is humble estimation, it could be more.
        Ouu pore honey but new Google Nexus 5 from LG will be hire for Christmas. & guess what? It comes with S620 & Android M.
        quodvadis
        September 5, 2015
        Yes, we call that conjecture around here.
        Oh wow, Christmas, that’s like 4 months from now. Such market readiness.
        Lazar Prodanovic
        September 5, 2015
        JiaYu wants this phone to be ready by Christmas if you didn’t read the article.
        & it looks like to me that you don’t really know how long development cycle takes so 4 months are actually reasonable timing (if the wind blows your way).
        Congratulations you really did it no matter how hard it whose to seem even stupider again.

E8hffff
September 4, 2015
Good plan if it’s a cheap phone but many want a flag-ship phone too.
I’m wanting to upgrade from the S3, so I want Helio X10/X20 with better cameras. Example bring out a Jiayu S4 quickly even if the phone uses the S3 design.
Great news that Jiayu is considering open sourcing their code!
- Marco Lancaster
  September 5, 2015
  I have S3, I would be glad buy another Jiayu if it keeps NFC and bring me Helio X10/X20 (s3 is the only one in that price range to have it), I would add some alloy borders to the phone, would be really nice, S3 design with metal borders and some improvements, like a better camera, would be awesome. Another Mt6753 wouldn’t be good for who already have a S3 with better MT6752. I would just buy it if was a compact phone, 4.5~4.7, because this way would be different from others.

E8hffff
September 4, 2015
JIAYU YOUR PAST CUSTOMERS ARE READY FOR S4 BUT YOU’RE NOT. MANY WILL BUY OTHER BRAND NOW. YOU NEED TO QUICKLY GET OUT A S4 AT THE $200-$250 or even $299 PRICE. Prioritise the more expensive phone over the budget phone since people aren’t excited about old technology.
- Lazar Prodanovic
  September 5, 2015
  How about budget performer for $200 that we culd have sources for to play with? & I stated how below…
- Blue Gum
  September 5, 2015
  I’d rather they release it when they are ready and not rush because of clowns like you.

E8hffff
September 4, 2015
If clone/phone-copy hack companies can make phones in days, like iPhone or Samsung clones, surely Jiayu can make a S4 in a few weeks. They already have all the past tools and design to work off they just need to update to suit components like new screen, cameras and SoC.

waterresist
September 4, 2015
I think if Jiayu investors want a future proof company, than the flagship way is the only way to make an impact since we are flooded with cheap and big phones. By the time they can release the phone everybody who wanted to have a 6752/6753 phone will have one.
Personally I prefer the S2 design as a super compact 5 incher, updated with the best possible SoC (2)3-4 Gb of ram and a good (preferably great) camera. International LTE bands are a must in my eyes just as stable and great calling (and GPS) qualitiy. At least it is a phone, is not it? If one can manage having the necessary LTE bands than do not forget to include a strong battery and NFC. Hotknot is simply not an option outside of China. Considering the price of a 32Gb microsd card i think 32 and/or 64 Gb (forget 16Gb) option at a reasonable price(!) would be better than an microsdcard slot. (Reasonable means the difference is not more than the price of a card and not the double/triple of it. I am not a phone maker, but aren’t they are the same chips?) …and for God’s sake do not be lazy and optimize the software, pleeease! 🙂 All in all if I were you Jiayu, I would go for a $250-300 phone with a compact (pocket friendly) body and (at least near) flagship attributes. One last thing. I know making screen protectors are a big business, but …
- Stef
  September 4, 2015
  I prefer them to release the sources than to “optimize” the software.
  All they need is to release a basic AOSP rom and let the community do the rest. Hardware makers are notably bad in creating software, better let them out of it (just create a phone + sources).
  - waterresist
    September 5, 2015
    You are right. That would be a better option. …if the phone is a hit and community got hooked upon it.
    - Stef
      September 5, 2015
      To compile a basic AOSP rom is a very simple procedure even a 10 year old kid can do it.
      All the problems start when the sources are non-existent or incomplete (and thus one has to “complete” them using sources from other device-trees). Which is why *complete* sources are needed at all times. And if they do that, they won’t have to care about the device anymore, so it’s a win-win for them too…
      - waterresist
        September 6, 2015
        You got it. Altough it still get in the news if a company do this. I wonder if they heard about community and read the forums or only their intranet?
- quodvadis
  September 5, 2015
  Their S1 and S2, that didn’t have microSD support, helped them went almost bankrupt. Repeating that mistake is a good idea. /s
  - waterresist
    September 5, 2015
    Agreed. This is why I wrote bigger memory for a reasonable price unlike Xiaomi did it with its 64 gigabyters. … and it is about my dream phone, not necessary yours 😉

Joel Mercedes
September 4, 2015
I say any decent Chinese manufacturer should do this to take the market by storm without forgetting anything ANYTHING:
A. 4000+mAh battery
B. Forget the crap and hire cyanogen we will put desired launcher after no matter what.
C. 18+mpx camera or more (budget dept.)
D. 5 and 5.5 2k screens variants (FHD as minimum and 2k maximum)
E. 4gb of some fast RAM
F. 32 GB or more onboard storage
G. Never forget the memory card reader
H. A real 8mpx front camera with a led flash
I. Full spectrum network bands support So not forgetting this or that band.
J. Front squarish or back rounded fingerprint reader for bragging rights. Front square to match the screen shape or rounded in the back to match the round usual circle of the camera.
K. Couldn’t care less about NFC or HOTKNOT as long as there is one, for bragging rights once again.
L. Off screen gestures is a must, I’ve learned to love that stupid silliness a lot much more than what I spected. (Own a Ecoo 3gb e04)
M. A decent SoC or even an overclocked mtk6752 and up (except the 6753 for obvious reasons) would do as long as it is cheap enough not to be a Qualcomm …
After that mix I will fallow functionality over form, meaning, as long as it is not stupidly ugly I will throw my money over.
Cheers, let me know if that’s just me…
- E8hffff
  September 4, 2015
  H – Nice if the front camera also had autofocus
  K – I do care about NFC
  M – The problem is using older SoCs is their GFX core also is old.
  I don’t care much about finger scanners but I haven’t had a phone with one, so I’ll remained reserved about that. I’m not that fussed with the design as long as it’s not ugly and weak structure.
- Stef
  September 4, 2015
  Basically all/most of those blow up the cost to levels way beyond the $150-$160 that Jiayu targets.
  It would be better to find low cost alternatives to those.
  For example using FHD keeps the need for resources to a minimum and it looks even better than QHD if a good panel is used.
  4GB is great, but 3GB is enough for FHD (but less than that is a no-no)
  Great cameras are expensive, better to use lower cost ones but use a great processing algorithm. The old Galaxy S4 still produces better pictures than many/most Chinese phones despite the old sensor, merely because of Samsung’s post-processing.
  I can go on but the above are precisely the things one would not expect from a low cost phone. You can find them in $300+ phones though.
  They better choose only what’s important, not include any fluff. Still, I won’t buy it as I don’t buy phablets, but it will allow them to retain their low-cost yet balanced specs that in my mind they still have (to this day Jiayu S3 is a more balanced phone/phablet than most low cost ones).
  - Joel Mercedes
    September 5, 2015
    Ok I get your point on the screen and the RAM, but as I have it understood engineers and coders for the camera’s software algorithms charge a lot per phone, excuse me if I’m mistaken here.
    Anyways I would like as I said any maker that dares to come thru with this I will throw my money right there. And if Andy or anyone would have an approximate of how much for something like this would really appreciate it. Maybe 320???
    - Stef
      September 5, 2015
      Yeah but better throw the money there (post processing) than to an expensive sensor. Greatly processed pictures always look better than those using the best hardware available… Most Chinese makers try to promote their super-wow sensors and optics of their cameras but then you look at the pictures and say meeeh, even low end phones often have better pictures.
      I like what Gionee did 2 years ago, they used a less known sensor on their E7 model yet used some of the best post processing. As a result you can buy a $160 phone today (Gionee E7) with better pictures than most phones even from expensive ones released today…
      - Guaire
        September 5, 2015
        Because Gionee used good sensors had larger pixels than average. Also they spend money for good lenses at least for main cam. If camera can’t catch enough light you can’t fix it via software.
        
        Stef
        September 5, 2015
        If I recall correctly E7’s was using only a F/2.2 lens, and omnivision of Front Facing cams’ fame was the manufacturer of the sensor, hardly of what one could call high end hardware. I mean phones with similar setups produce very bad photos but E7’s was one of the best.
        I’m not saying that they didn’t choose -carefully- the hardware too, merely that it was of the inexpensive variety and a big part of their quality came from their post processing algorithms.
        It’s quite telling that much of that quality was lost with their Kit Kat update initially (I’m not sure what happens as of now, maybe they had it fixed) showing once more how important optimization is, often more than buying the best of the best quality in imaging tech (still not buying bad either, just middle of the pack).
        
        Guaire
        September 5, 2015
        True it has F/2.2 aperture, but with 1.34 um pixels size which is better than f/2.0 with 1.12 um pixels size. Also its front camera sensor has 1.4 um pixel size.
        I’m not saying software isn’t important, but there is a limit what can you do with software if hardware is weak.
        Some of these Chinese brands constantly advertising their phones with top of the shelf Sony sensors, but most of them lack of OIS and larger apertures than f/2.0 and we have no idea their lense qualities.
        MaxPower
        September 5, 2015
        you nailed it.
        it’s all about optics, not post processing.
        any professional photographer would agree with it.
        The better the pic is, the easier is to photoshop it.
- quodvadis
  September 5, 2015
  A. 3000 is enough for a day, as long as it’s removable, people who need more will be well served.
  B. Might be a good idea. Just hire third party for your OS rather than developing your own. Probably end up cheaper too.
  C. Don’t really care as long as it has good low light performance.
  D. FHD all the way, 2K will only drain more battery for questionable improvement (panel quality matters much much more)
  E. Offer 3GB and 4GB option, and yes, it has to be fast, STOP using LPDDR2.
  F. Agree, enough with 16GB, it’s almost 2016.
  G. Agree. Very important, I cross any phone without one off the list just like that.
  H. Agree.
  I. Doesn’t really matter to me.
  J. Doesn’t really matter, prefer not actually.
  K. Doesn’t really matter. But yeah, IJK are good for marketing.
  L. Doesn’t matter.
  M. Have to be at least X10, P10 is also a good idea if they can get it out faster than other competitors since that’ll give them instant exposures.
  Another from me: DON’T USE SHARP CORNERS. It may look ‘different’ than other phone, but anyone who has bit of brain knows that it’s an utter ergonomic failure as a phone design.
- Guaire
  September 5, 2015
  Mediatek SoCs doesn’t support fast RAMs, even upcoming X20. When I say fast, I mean LPDDR4. Except SD810 and Exynos 7420 no chips supports it yet. Not even SD808.
  MT6752 and MT6753 doesn’t support 2K displays. Helio X10 does, but its GPU barely powerful enough for it. Also it would suck juice of that 4000+ mAh battery.
  Displays are biggest power hogs in smartphones. Cheap phones usually gets a-Si type and it has worst power consumption, so most of the time people can’t get expected battery life from their budget phone with 3000+ mAh battery, even if had lower resolution display. Best power efficiency came with LTPS, but it’s most expensive one. In the middle lies IGZO.
  Batteries also has different volumetric energy densities. If you are intended to make a 5 incher with such a large battery to keeping it within a reasonable size (not too wide or too tall, max 9mm thick and rounded edges at sides for a good grip) you will need OLED display (because it’s thinner than LCD, so you will have more room for battery) and denser batteries. Both are more expensive.
  - quodvadis
    September 5, 2015
  - Joel Mercedes
    September 6, 2015
    You do know we are NOT looking for a $500++ phone, right? This is not a purist search and that’s why we came to a Chinese phone reviewing page looking for affordable or reasonably priced phones not overpriced because of brand “X”.
    - Guaire
      September 6, 2015
      I guess you didn’t understand what I meant.
      Some of your wishes contradicts with others.
Cheng
September 4, 2015
About updates,I think this is a important thing for every smart phone.I hope the company could be better in it.Just this

hmck
September 5, 2015
jiayu is crap,they promised release lolipop for S3 at june,still there is no proper LL for S3. Last world release for s3 was at march. i have bought 2 jiayu phone first was g4s now s3,from this point i will never buy a jiayu again…
- Stef
  September 5, 2015
  To be fair Jiayu creates great hardware but like most small Chinese companies don’t care much about software. I don’t think there’s any company releasing budget phones that supports them for long, that’s part of the low-cost deal you bought into (maybe great hardware but certainly little to no support).
  Which is why I advocate (as much as one can advocate through Internet forums) for small Chinese companies to release detailed sources at all times. That way the fact that they can’t support their devices wouldn’t matter as the community can step in at any time and provide that support, leading us to have both great software and hardware at low cost.
  The way things currently are you have to choose … sadly.
  - a
    September 5, 2015
    Jiayu doesn’t create any hardware. They just pay some manufacturer to put a Jiayu logo on their phone
    - Stef
      September 5, 2015
      They are the ones who make the assembly. They are an OEM of smartphones but not of their individual components. I think that’s how it always was…
Kingsley
September 5, 2015
A 5.5 will have to compete with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2. I wouldn’t mind the mtk6753 if; it has 3gb RAM, fast auto focus camera with OIS, 13 mp is okay, fhd quality screen, fingerprint scanner, small bezels, and over 3200 battery with quick charger. And yes, being quick to have Android M is very important.

Leblebici
September 5, 2015
X10! Otherwise they will repead themself after s3
Elisha Bentzi
September 5, 2015
The market need 3 devices. just name it “THE COMMUNITY EDITION PHONES” with open source code, then the community get care of software support.
Model A: fast, big screen, 5,5″ FHD. 160~200$
Model B: normal, 4,7″ 120~160$
Model C: minimalistic 3,5″ 70~110$
1- Metal frame, shock proof gorilla glass, user replaceable extra tempered glass, round corners because sharp corners break the phones easy, no more bendgate phones! or fall and damage phone!
2- 3GB for A and B, 2GB for C. (DEAL BREAKER)
3- All LTE bands, 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20 like samsung and iphones, the missing bands is a break deal for international customers and travelers. (DEAL BREAKER)
4- 3000+ battery for A and B, 2000+ for C user replaceable (DEAL BREAKER)
5- 32GB for A and B, micro sd slot. (DEAL BREAKER)
6- Back 13 mp camera fast autofocus excellent low light performance led flash
7- Front 5 mp camera excellent low light performance led flash
8- Front squarish big fingerprint reader for A and B
9- Hi fi audio for A and B
10- NFC for A and B
11- great GPS and WiFI reception. (DEAL BREAKER)
12- IR for remote control
13- air gestures
14- Helio X10, or X20 better, or P10 good S620 good for A and B. MT6752 or MT6753 for C.
- robert
  September 5, 2015

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