Elephone P8000 Review

Wasn’t referring to Andi’s post. Referring to ParisTech. I’ve used the P8000 and battery life is quite good. 5 to 6 hours is standard. My current phone (k3 note) manages 3 to 4.5 hours max on constant 3g browsing. Needless to say I’m not impressed. Waiting to see how long the Zuk Z1 can last.

I’ve hardly seen better, Zte grand s2 3100mah, neo noo3 3100mah, Nubia z7 max 3100mah, k3 note 2900mah none has ever gone above 6 hours onscreen time with 3g browsing. I guess that’s why am happy with it’s performance. Have u used any of these?

My Bros 3000mah Letv x600 never gets up to 6 hours with 3g. His Tecno mt6592 with 3300mah manages 5 to 6 hours on 3g. Geekbench doesn’t tell the real story.

No, you don’t need to break anything down. If you know me here as much as I know u, u should know that I know all there is to about SOCs. I mentioned the Letv cause u said u can easily, easily get 6 hours out of a 3150mah helio x10 phone.

My bros Letv outlasts my k50 note. Despite the SOC difference in SOC class. Get my point mate, I really haven’t used any phone on 3g up to 6hours straight. I mean continuous net surfing on 3g. Wasn’t comparing. Was just stating.

Exactly my point. It’s not that Elephone P8000’s sensor is bad, it’s the optics’ quality as well as the software that deals with the image. While Elephone P8000 has bad optics and bad image optimization, I find this to be the deal with almost all budget phones and many $300+ phones too. Actually phones with *great* photo clarity are all super expensive (I think LG G4 is the only one with high end photography that is not super expensive).

In buying a phone with the name Elephone or even (cheap) XiaoMi in front, you don’t expect good photography.

As for performance. Like I wrote in my other post(s) a SoC is secondary in importance. It’s only first in importance while gaming, in everything else the amount of Ram and its bandwidth is more important.

A 6753 phone with 3GB of Ram running stock android is faster (everytime) than a Helio X10 phone with 2GB phone running stock, or even faster than a Helio X10 + 3GB phone running a heavy non stock Rom. That’s my experience time and again, that’s why Elephone P8000 (running non OTA phone) is the fastest phone I used in 2015.

A similar example is last year’s One Plus One running a very slim Rom (cyanogenOS) with its users raving about its performance and actually feeling faster than powerhouses like Galaxy Note 4, despite the much better SoC of Note 4 (Exynos Octa); all because of the (vastly) more free Ram allowed from CyanogenOS… Of course in Gaming Note 4 was faster.

Well I’m not a photography expert I can’t agree or disagree on the photo front.

But in the front of battery is probably one of the few best and in the front of performance is very close to being the best budget phone simply because it runs Stock android 5.1 (as provided in ELE forums) and has 3GB of ram (only much more expensive phones have this).

So yeah as for every day performance and autonomy goes this is probably the phone to buy. I don’t know where the bad mouthing comes, this is by far the best Elephone, despite it’s obvious downsides (bezels, need of screen protector, probably photography, great screen but some people seeing white spots)

I never wrote (or believed) what you quoted.

Here’s my real quote .

“runs Stock android 5.1 (as provided in ELE forums) and has 3GB of ram”

Does any of those of your list run stock Google and/or have released sources?

No I did not. If I say “if A and B happens then it means C” , it’s not at all the same as “when B happens it means C”. It’s basic boolean algebra. 1+0=10, but 0!=10

You half quoted me so you changed the meaning of what I wrote.You did it again. I wrote “the official Elephone Rom as provided in Ele forums” (the non OTA variant) which *is* stock. You talk about the OTA Rom which most definitely isn’t stock and has serious battery leaking. So again you make basic mistakes as far as reading comprehension goes.

OK, I’m convinced that you’re trolling now, but I’ll make one last attempt to help you with the obvious reading comprehension.

I didn’t wrote what you’re quoting. There are obviously dozens of phones with 3gb of Ram, I bought one for a friend back in June (Elife E7), but guess what. It didn’t run stock so it was slower than expected (Bad ram management?). So since then I’m looking for a phone running stock *and* Has 3GB of Ram and the only I found is the much beleagered P8000.

When you called it a bad phone (one that I’ve searched for months simply on account of its rarity, remember?) I kindly asked to prove it so. At least Andi ran the OTA rom and proved how the battery life that P8000 has when running OTA is less than ideal.

But when I ask from you to show me a phone running stock *and* has 3 gigs, you completely ignored the question and found a bunch of phones with mediocre ram management (due to them nor running stock).

This convo will make its circle if you stick by your guns and prove your beliefs, as long as you keep changing the subject the convo only makes circles and/or remains unresolved… I’m *dying* to find a budget phone with 3 Gigs of Ram and better ram management (stock Google) merely on account of recommending it to a friend, but you fail to deliver sadly.

I will tell you why you’re trolling. Surely you understand that

” because it runs Stock android 5.1 (as provided in ELE forums) *and* has 3GB of ram”

is not the same as “because it has 3GB of ram”.

Since it’s not the same I never really wrote that it is the best budget phone “because it has 3GB of ram”. Your partial quote -therefore- is not at all what I wrote or meant.

Since that’s understandable even by someone with poor command of the language as well as your liberal use of ad-hominems lead me to believe that by the time you lost the argument you retracted into a trolling stance.

I don’t know why you feel the need to troll, I’m merely explaining to you why you’re trolling.

I explain my position, you don’t. That’s another reason why you’re trolling, you make statements and accusations, not expositions…

But you honestly have no position. You create strawmen out of what another said, then proceed to attack it and eventually you start ad hominem attacks based on his defence to the strawman attacks.

What part of that behavior is not trolling?

Well you started with the insults (Elephone fan), so I had to defend myself, wouldn’t you?

Just because a crap brand like Elephone has bad cameras doesn’t mean it is industry wide. There are phones from Lenovo, TCL, Xiaomi, Meizu, iOcean and a host of other companies that cost less than $300 and have very good cameras.

You have very very little clue what you are talking about when it comes to SoC’s, it’s not even worth arguing with you. The OnePlus One used a SD801, the Note 4 used either the SD805 or the Exnyos 7, depending on which region you bought it in. All 3 of those were flagship SoC’s designed for performance. The difference in the speed of those was very minor, and the biggest difference between the speed of the One and the Note 4 was the software it ran. CM (One) is a lot faster UI than Touchwhiz (Note 4). If you have the same software on both most would never notice a difference in performance.

Again you have little clue what your talking about when it is coming to SoC’s in phones, no matter how much Linux experience you have.

The LG G4 is the best camera phone you can buy today, but that doesn’t mean every other camera is crap compared to it. You are head over heels in love with Elephone its not worth the time to post examples, you can do your own research if you really care enough. Theres plenty of info out there.

We talked? I don’t remember that. Anyway let him win my arguments, not change my opinion, that’s more important anyway. And -no- I do not have a love affair with that company, I would be the first to admit bad camera, the white patches on screen, even the lack of removable battery and the big bezels.

But you (or @balcobomber25) *have to* admit that’s 3GB + stock + released sources, simply doesn’t exist anywhere else in budget phones.

Obviously different things are important for different people, but what I’m used to tell (regarding Elephone P8000) is that it does things right in the way that nobody else does or did and sometimes it’s a bit infuriating that those (IMO important) things get side-stepped as if they’re business as usual (and they’re not!)

First is the immense battery life (really, I know few other budget phones have that), the released sources (is there any other budget phones with github tree?) and (finally) how (truly) fast it is (all people do is measure benchmarks, all the while benchmarks measure burst performance instead of performance over the long run which is much more relevant).

I don’t remember talking about next year, but about this year sure.

Maybe I’m a bit more biased than a lot of you people because I like to merge google’s patches on my phones , thus always keeping them current, and since only P8000 let’s me do that in this price I can’t see any competitor.

But even if you were to grant that released sources is not at all important in every day user you can’t deny the better build quality than most budget phones, big battery and Ram. Really just open a site like device specifications and tell if there’s any phone having all three below the $200.

Like I said -sure- other people care for other stuff too. For example the camera is bad and if you care much about it (I rarely use it) it may tip the scales. Same with GG … In fact now that I remember I never said that is is the best phone, I said “if you disregard the camera and use the Elephone forum Roms, I.e. not the OTA release like Andi did” (or sth to that effect) and may I add “if you use a screen protector”, is the best budget phone. Those are a lot of ifs from the get go, so I never really said it is the best budget phone.

I merely said it’s the best budget phone for those not caring about the above (mobile photography, GG, OTA)… Is that not fair?

Well it’s not a flame war, we just use arguments back and forth , I didn’t call you names , nor did you (apart from Elephone lover, which is actually a funny name to bear :p). So it’s all good really…

Having said that XTouch indeed seems better, but I think it’s not released yet, and what it would mostly makes it a no-no to me is the lack of sources. Even the best hardware gets old when the software is not updated. On other hand my ‘ol i9000 (400 mb ram and single core processor!) runs cm11 quite well , 5 years after I bought it and it is still dependable for many things! That’s the power of sources (that’s why I said “best software” for p8000)