Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro: Full Specifications, Features, Pricing

redmi note series will never have helio x20 its not their flagship line

Not soon, but second half of the year might be.

BTW which cpu wins in the gpu department?The Helio x20 with its Mali T880MP4 or the Snapdragon with its Adreno 510

MediaTek has always placed 2nd tier gpu’s on their flagship cpu’s. The Helio x20 gpu is actually alot weaker than 2013’s Snapdragon 800..Anyone looking to do heavy game on 1440p with the Helio x20 is going to be very disappointed.

That’s rather ignorant and makes you sound like a fanboy. Others are using huge GPUs because they push fps without issue unlike the cheap GPUs chosen by MTK. They overclock cheap hardware that burns battery and cheat benchmarks to make it look like a good competitor but when that benchmark gets updated, MTK looks as cheap as it really is. X10 was benching around SD808 last year, now the updated Antutu shows it 20k down as it really is. X20 was supposed to come long ago but now everyone is going with 650 series. MTK is done in the mid-range.

The X20 is up 2x faster than the SD800 (depending on benchmark) and ofc supports a lot more features and newer standards.

But you seem to be here just to bash Mediatek and have no interest in facts or reason.

This is right, but we’re talking generally here. 😉

there is a cost, the GPU is big (die area wise) and you have a thermal limitation so to gain perf you need to go with a much larger GPU and clock it lower while gaining little. But you can’t waste mm2 on that in midrange or lower high end since you need to be competitive in the market place. In the very high end you can do it to get top spot and sell your SoC at 50-60$. Even then, you compete with Samsung or Qualcomm and they clock their GPUs way too high and can’t sustain those speeds.So if you do a honest SoC you end up behind in those benchmarks even if you beat them in sustained gaming.

Look at Huawei with T880MP4 at 900MHz they almost match the Galaxy S6 in sustained perf. Samsung has T760MP8 at 700MHz but the clocks drop to half after 15mins of load while Huawei throttles very very little. Huawei should have went with MP6 i think and MT in the X30 better go MP6 or even MP8, we’ll see.but the X20 is not really aimed at very high end, it’s a bit bellow that.

Edit: the Exynos 7420 die area is 78.23mm2, the quad A57 cluster is 8.88mm2 while the GPU is 17.7mm2. For the Kirin 950,the quad A72 including cache is just 8mm2. Just to give you an idea about sizes.

PS: i don’t care about brands, just the product. SD65x are great at the right price (and they do seem to have the right price if Xiaomi could shove this in a 150$ device), X20 is great too, at the right price.

MediaTek should have clocked the Helio x20’s 700Mhz to 900Mhz matching the Kirin 950. Then we would have had a really good gpu in possibly one of the best CPU’s this year

also SD card slot -_-

stupid comment, as if 28gb isn’t more than enough for most.

You’re being too harsh: I can understand your disappointment, I’m one of those who likes to have sd and perhaps removable battery, but you just can’t call people “sheep” just because they don’t need more than 32 or even 16gb of space (or else they’re prepared to a compromise and use otg in order to have a powerful device at such price)

It’s not al least for me. Now using 16GB+64GB and running out of storage.

New and shiny means more faster and better GPU in this case, so, i don’t see the point. I rather like a snapdragon phone than any MTK so, it’s not only “new and shiny”

What phone do you own?

I understand.

The point is that everyone has their own priorities.

Someone might need more storage options like you, someone a better camera, someone other features like fingerprint scanner or fast charging…

I can deal without a SD card slot but I can’t give up a snappy camera or fast charging for example.

Sure is. Good for you.

Meanwhile I can enjoy 28GB of high speed AND practically unlimited and loss-proof storage with other phone.

SD808 supports faster LTE cat9, in the rest, we’ll see if SD650 will offer more performance.

i am not sure it this will perform better than SD808.

SD808 will be atleast 30% better than SD650.

its more like a downgraded version of SD808.

> Beefy SoC (SD650 is better than SD808 and WAY better than the Helio X10)

depends on how you look at it. The cpu scores will be little different — faster in single core tasks. The GPU is waay better, as is the ram. otherwise it’s pretty close really (and the ram score is always pretty small).

Antutu v6 makes it look like the sd 650 is ~50% faster than the Helio X10, but Antutu 5.7 probably would not be so kind to the 650, and a lot of people are put off by Antutu making the gpu count for more than the cpu, and adding a UX score on top of it (kinda counting the gpu twice).

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anyway, despite all that .. I want it. if I don’t see anything better looking after MWC I might well get one this year. It is cheap and a solid performer. Helio X10s dont support the 4G bands here in the USA: seems like this is made for someone like me.

Yay, that’s a great news friend!!

Double is the MTK based device while the full netcom is the Pro.with SD650.

They label it like that because the X10 doesn’t have CDMA2000 so it can’t support all 3 Chinese carriers. The SD650 has CDMA2000 so it does support all 3.

They had a sale today for the Redmi 3 and both versions of the Redmi Note 3 but all sold out fast. You can find out when they have the next sale by monitoring Redmi’s Weibo account through Google Translate http://weibo.com/xiaomihongmi

And just for the sake of it, some newer MTK chips do have CDMA2000 ,including the new ones about to arrive.