We’ve put the Elephone P9000 through its paces and come to a conclusion, find out what that is in our Elephone P9000 review.
The Elephone P9000 is the first phone from Elephone that I know of that leaked, was announced and then launched in a matter of weeks. This is a far cry from Elephone’s past launches which saw a phone leaked and then ultimately launch 12 months later.
So is the Elephone P9000 the phone which could turn Elephone’s image around?
Elephone P9000 Review – Unboxing
Elephone P9000 Review – Design
Elephone have actually gotten a few of the design details of the Elephone P9000 right for a change.
For starters the bezels on the phone are actually really super thin. For a 5.5-inch smartphone the Elephone P9000 is one of the more compact designs out there.
Elephone have also put more attention to detail in the metal frame on the P9000 which has helped give the phone a clean look while maintaining a low weight.
Our black version of the P9000 features a 5.5-inch FHD display up front with front 8 mega-pixel camera at the top and a single hardware button on the chin of the phone.
This is an interesting choice, and one that is sure to displease some. The single home button design reminds me of earlier Meizu phones. Tapping the home button once acts as a back gesture, a double-click is for getting home, and a long press opens up recent apps.
If you don’t want to play around with these gestures, then you can always head in to the settings and turn on the onscreen navigation bar.
The rear of the P9000 has a sandstone finish similar to (but not as rough as) the one found on the OnePlus 2. Other features found on the rear are the ELE logo, laser for the focus, 13 mega-pixel rear camera, dual LED flash and fingerprint scanner.
Around the sides is the metal chassis finished in dark grey with a polished upper and lower edge. The only surprise here is the function button on the right side of the phone which can be used to launch apps. For example you can have the button set up to launch the camera from any application, however you can’t then have the button work as a shutter control (which seems like a missed opportunity to me).
On the same side as the function button is a dual micro SIM tray, then we have a 3.5mm headphone jack at the top, volume and power buttons on the right, USB Type C in the base and a couple of holes for speakers. Only the drilled out holes on the right are for the external speaker.
Initially I was impressed with the build of the phone, but the more I used it the more movement seemed to be evident in the physical buttons meaning an audible rattle is present.
There are no gaps in the build, but as you can see in the photo above the rear panel isn’t sitting quite flush with the metal frame. It looks like it would be very notable from the photos, but in the flesh it’s not has noticeable.
Another issue I found is that the rear panel marks really easily. A few days in my bag while traveling through Europe last week has resulted in marks and scuffs making the phone look much older than it actually is.
Elephone P9000 Review – Hardware
The 5.5-inch 1920 x 1080 display on the Elephone P9000 is exceptional. The screen really is beautiful with wonderful bright colours. Everyone who handled the P9000 commented on the display quality and the wonderful viewing angles.
The Helio P10 chipset and 4GB RAM set up is also an impressive combo. This is our first Helio P10 powered phone and we are impressed with the performance that the SoC offers.
Many of you asked how GPS is on the phone, so I tested the phone without WIFI and a SIM installed. As usual the first lock on took a little while but since then the GPS has been super fast.
Elephone have given the Elephone P9000 fast charging features, but in the box there isn’t a fast charger included. You can buy the plug as an optional extra and using it will result in 0-100% charge times of around 3 hours. There is also an optional Elephone wireless charger, but using it results in much slower charge times.
The battery itself is a 3000mAh cell and it was giving me a full day of battery life and 4 hours of onscreen time while I was away traveling. To be fair the phone was hunting for LTE more often that it would at home as I was using data roaming, plus I shot a lot of photos and used Google Maps, so better battery life can be expected from less intense use.
On the rear is that fingerprint scanner. In the past I have used Elephone phones with fingerprint scanners and not had a problem with them but the model on the P9000 isn’t great. First of all setting up the scanner isn’t very easy, in fact its so different from other phones that I had to write-up a “how to” a few days ago.
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Once set up the fingerprint scanner isn’t very good. It worked well for the first day then it decided it no longer wanted to play nice. Restarting the phone jump started things again, but it’s still not as accurate as other phones.
The rear camera has laser autofocus but it won’t work unless you go in to the settings turn it off and turn it back on again. Laser auto focus is meant to help with close up images. With it on the focus is more accurate for close up images in good light, but the speed is similar to a fast regular autofocus phone (don’t expect OP2 levels of speed here).
Final interesting specifications of the Elephone P9000 include NFC (a feature we are going to see come back on a number of phones this year), and USB Type C.
Overall the feature list is very impressive, and performance is good. The only features that really leave a lot to be desired are the camera (see below) and fingerprint scanner.
Elephone P9000 Review – Performance
As mentioned, the Elephone P9000 is the first phone that we have tried with a Helio P10 chipset, and so far I can’t fault it. It might not get the same benchmarks as the Helio X10, but day-to-day performance is unquestionable.
The P9000 runs Android 6.0 Marshmallow out of the box, and although this is the first Android 6 build for the P9000 it is surprisingly well sorted (the only exception being the settings for the fingerprint scanner).
Update: added GFXbench benchmarks
Elephone P9000 Review – Camera
I took the Elephone P9000 with me to Prague last week. It was the first time I have ever been and I was blown away by the beauty of the city and the amazing architecture.
I’m sure I’ll go back again and see Prague and the wonderful sights, but if not I can count my lucky stars that I took my OnePlus X and Leica camera because the P9000’s camera is a pure let down.
The P9000 requires huge amounts of sunlight to really perform well, but while I was in Prague I was getting bright sunlight mixed with deep shadows made by castles and other buildings. The P9000 simply cannot handle this and images which should have been good are seriously lacking.
The main issues I had were with the focus and the lenses, a usual problem with Chinese phones and something we really demand that all brands address in the future.
In comparison the OnePlus X shot everything well, but I wish I had taken something a little better (Mi Note, OP2).
Elephone P9000 Camera Samples
Elephone P9000 Review – Specifications
| Model: | P9000 |
| Sim Card: | Dual SIM,dual standby (Dual Micro SIM) |
| Color: | Black/White |
| Capacity | RAM: 4GB
ROM: 32GB Max. Expansion Supported: 256GB |
| Multi-Languages | English as default
English, Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Melayu, Cestina, Dansk, Deutsch, Espanol, Filipino, French, Hrvatski, latviesu,lietuviu,Italiano, Magyar, Nederlands, Norsk, Polish, Portuguese, Romana, Slovencina, Suomi, Svenska, Tieng viet, Turkish, Greek, Bulgarian, Russian, Ukrainian, Hebrew, Arabic, Thai, Khmer, Korean, Simplified/Traditional Chinese. |
| Chipset | CPU: Helio P10(MT6755 Octa core 2.0GHz)
GPU: Mali-T860 |
| System | Android 6.0 |
| Screen | Display:5.5″ LG, LTPS OGS screen NTSC: 93%
Resolution: 1080 *1920 pixels FHD 1.6mm narrow bezel |
| Camera | Rear camera: Sony IMX258 13MP F/2.0 Double color temperature flashes Laser focusFront camera: OV8858 8MP 84° wide angle |
| Network and Wireless Connectivity | 2G/3G/4G(FDD,TDD) Up to 150Mbps
4G: FDD-LTE:band 1/3/7/8/20 TDD-LTE: 38/40 3G: WCDMA:Band 1/2/5/8 WLAN: 802.11a/b/g/n, 2.4G/5G |
| Battery capacity and life | 3000mAh-3080mAh (Li-POL battery) Quick charge: PE+ 2.5A/1.67A(5V/7V/9V) 1.25A(12V) USB: Type-C |
| Sensor | G-sensor, P-sensor, L-sensor, Hall, Gyrometer, Breath LED, E-compass |
| Other Features | NFC: YES Wireless Charge: YES Fingerprint: YES(Black Screen Wake up) OTG: YESE-Touch Fingerprint ApplockSmart Key(Intelligent Mute Mode etc) Black Screen Gesture |
| Size | Dimensions: 148.4*73.2*7.3mm |
| Weight | About145g |
Elephone P9000 Review – Gallery
Elephone P9000 Review – Conclusion
Another Elephone phone which promises the earth but lacks in important areas.
The camera, once again for Elephone, is the big disappointment this time around. The focus issue could be solved with updates but the lens issue cannot.
The fingerprint scanner can be fixed with updates and I hope this actually happens now that the Elephone team are back to work after the Chinese New Year.
Where the phone does impress though is the speed of the GPS, the amazing screen (it really is a joy to use), and good performance. I also like the fact that Elephone have included NFC and the option of wireless charging too, but proabably would have prefered it if these features were left out to bring enhancments to the camera.
Jajajajaja typical elephone, last year I bought 3 elephone for my family, all broke within 3 months of usage…amazing….Now I only buy from dear Xiaomi anymore
This isn’t clear: Andi please answer if you can.
0-100% in about 3 hours with the optional fast charger?
If so this isn’t fast at all, it’s a 1A/h rate.
yes with the optional fast charger
o_O
That’s the time I take to full charge my Jiayu S3 with no Fast Charge lol And this slow charge hurts me a lot that I bought a external dock to charge another battery lol
Thankfully fast charge is coming this month with a newer update, and 1.5 to fully charge will be the standard. I don’t know what Elephone mean with Fast Charge hehe
There’s something wrong here.
It has to be a mistake or something.
Maybe a secret 10000mAh battery explain that charge time 😛
Haha, when I see pigs flying 😉
Honest question: Since you already have a 2nd battery and a cradle (if I understood that correctly), why would you go back to fast charging when offered? You practically have insta-charge and typically the hassle of changing a battery is less than a minute…
I mean don’t take me wrong, I love fast charging and prefer to avoid the extra cost of a second battery, so I often don’t buy one … But you already have one (plus a cradle), why would you do away with it?
Yeah, maybe I don’t use it much at the end. But it can be seriously useful when I’m other place without that second battery.
Also I would give some rest to the battery dents at board, as I’m always removing and putting battery on it.
I use the removable feature in my Note 4 and nowhere else, the reason is that is the only phone that I really depend on, everything else frankly is for me to play with and eventually give them away to family members…
…anyway, when I’m taking my Note 4 to places (say holiday) instead of a charger I bring my spare + cradle. It’s hardly bigger than a charger (at least my cradle is) so It’s not a hassle to take with.
Is S3’s cradle big and unruly? Enough to warrant to take a charger with you instead of the cradle, or do you mean using other people’s chargers?
3 hours with a “fast charger”?? That is worse than many “slow” chargers. The few phones I have used with “fast” charge have all taken from 55 minutes on the low end to 1.5 hours on the high end. And all were between 3-4000mAh.
I really don’t know what to say anymore.
This company amazes me more with each release, just when I think they can’t screw up anymore, they do. Let’s wait for the next Elephone and all the stories and comments that this one will be different!
Maybe that’s how Elephone defines word “fast”. Now I understand it – they announce phone, tell us it’s gonna be released in 3 months. And voila, after 8 months it’s here. Fast.
I thought I am the only one that noticed that.
3 hours for 3000mAh is horrible.
There’s nothing fast on it!
Btw, did you get a new phone?
I saw the review of the Robin and didn’t fully convince me so at the end I went for the RN3 Pro.
Are you still going for the Robin?
I am a true fan of Xiaomi. I only use Xiaomi phone.
Something is very wrong with Gizchina’s Elephone P9000. Youtuber s7yler made a review of elephone P9000 and it does support fast charging. He claimed that this phone with fast charger charged this phone from 0-100% in 87 minutes. Andi must have got a sample unit or defective device. Here’s the source below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EVSeth2Z94
Thx Andi for great review. If you said you gonna be in Prague, we could go for some pints lol
Next time 😀
I will be there too..a little beer and phone meeting 😀
I echo the comment of Mi-fan. No review, good or bad, can address the historic quality issues of Elephones. In general it seems that they look good and have great specs and price. But the damn things often don’t work, either right away or after a few weeks or months.
I know that it is a small sample size, but on Amazon.de the P8000 has 112 reviews. 66 lucky buyers are enthused by their phone, saying great value for money. Unfortunately, 18 buyers report non-functioning phones, so about a 15% fail rate. That’s the Elephone story until proven otherwise.
Luckily for the unsatisfied buyers, it is easy to return a phone to Amazon. It isn’t quite the same thing when you have to send it back to your chinese reseller who suddenly no longer understands English when you try to explain the problem!
The last line made me laugh as I think we all have experienced that at some point.
Wanted to buy this phone, but not anymore. Thanks Andi. Will wait for something from Meizu or xiaomi.
Gotta change that bad choice, Ecco E04, very bad choice, with something better
I was thinking about buying this phone too, but Elephone didn’t suprise me. Again. So I’ll wait for MWC and decide what to buy and throw my 4 years old HOX away.
good job Andi. I am happy that you like my Capital City (Prague). I was hoping that P9000 with this new camera sensor (IMX 258) will be a step forward in terms of quality and speed, but again I am dissapointed 🙁 As i know it is the same chip used in Xiaomi mi4c and as i read your review of xmi4c the image quality is far better than of P9000. Maybe due to lenses?
The difference between cameras in phone usually comes down to two things: lens and optimization. A lot of these cheaper companies use good sensors but then pair them with cheap lenses and they don’t spend anytime optimizing that sensor for their phone.
thats true, same sensor is used on Mi4c and its clearly better than IMX214.
Who mentioned the 214?
Was waiting for a GFXBench score, did it fail to complete it?
it did one test and failed on the rest
Spotted that run a few days ago, any other app problems?
Hang on a moment, I reset the phone and it seems and running GFXBench now and it seems to be running. I will update the review with the benchmarks once they have done.
Ok this time it all ran, added
Thanks.
I assume it doesn’t throttle but for that you would need to let it run the long term perf test and that takes a while.
Prague is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe.
Typical Elephone, they nail the specs and the design but fail in execution. They really need to stop trying to release a phone a month and focus on 1-2 really good products a year. That camera is beyond pathetic for a 2016 phone.
That’s Elephone we all knew. Common sense they can’t tap from Lenovo Zuk.
Elephone are explorers, so there will always encounter many problems, but it is also worthy of respect, because he dared to take risks. Of course, they do not rigorous, and give users a lot of problems, it is good practice, and they do it a complete mobile phone, and then sell, but they never do. elephone too anxious
Explorers? More like they are con artists, and I do respect them because they continue to con people with each new phone release.
Their marketing so many people lose confidence because elephone always exaggerate their product quality and delivery capabilities. elephone more interested in marketing than do products
You don’t understand… Do you remember the good old coca cola glass bottles? Sure the most of us used to like those bottles, so peculiar and vintage… That’s it! Elephone used the bottom of those bottles as lens for the camera, so the phone could appeal to the little hipster that is inside of us… That’s a thought out decision made on purpose, not elephone’s fault if you can’t appreciate a nice touch of vintage in a phone!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they used plastic coca cola bottles lol.
hhahahahahahhahahahaha
The good hto take out of this is that the Mtk P10 works great , EVEN when ELEPHONE is running the act. So that’s great news and it means that, for example, the use of that SoC by Gionee on the Elife S8 won’t disappoint.
It could disappoint with Gionee. It all comes down to Amigo UI, which so far has been one of the worst optimized UI’s on Android (and I am a Gionee fan).
On the other hand, charging time us something Andy should make more clear … Unless it is as obvious .
My 3500mah phone does 0-100% in 1:20minutes (80minutes) and 0-80% in 40minutes so this should be confirmed as even per ELEPHONE standards is a weird result …
If they did a software update addressing all that’s wrong but fixable that was mentioned, I think it would be a nice (risky) bargain value for the buck.
But if RISKY is to be considered, I would wait and see if DOOGEE’s mtk-X20 option is anything to hold the breath to.
Cheers!!!
Elephone will always be Elephone.
They don’t give a fuck to their customers. If you like complain till eternity, Elephone will do nothing
Why wait for Doogee another brand with terrible quality? Why not wait for the good brands that will be releasing at MWC?
Because there is still hope!!!
Gee, thats why i still keep coming here and found out about Gionee and their BLU partnership and got miself this wonderfull XL which i totally love.
If not i would quit gizchina, just to wait for mainstream flagships to drop price and get a Galaxy S6edge+ and look for a decent ROM from XDA , which is not a bad idea either.
Nevertheless I have great hope that one of this smaller brands will at some point flare a 1hitWonder to go crazy about.
This site is about a lot more than Doogee and Elephone. There is Xiaomi, Lenovo/Zuk, OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, UMi, Meizu, Huawei/Honor, Gionee and a host of other brands to look forward to.
lol , camera -4
Hey Andy i live in Prague ,it would have been so nice to meet you , i follow your website since many years , bu the way nice click hope u enjoyed urself
Elephone doing the shit they know how to do best.
Typical elephone, last year I bought 3 elephones for my family, all broke within 3 months of usage…amazing….Now I only buy from Xiaomi anymore. You just can’t have phones that are not reliable at a pricepoint where you can get the real brands (Mi, Meizu, Honor….)
This isn’t clear: Andi please answer if you can.
0-100% in about 3 hours with the optional fast charger?
If so this isn’t fast at all, it’s a 1A/h rate.
yes with the optional fast charger
o_O
3 hours with a “fast charger”?? That is worse than many “slow” chargers. The few phones I have used with “fast” charge have all taken from 55 minutes on the low end to 1.5 hours on the high end. And all were between 3-4000mAh.
I really don’t know what to say anymore.
Maybe that’s how Elephone defines word “fast”. Now I understand it – they announce phone, tell us it’s gonna be released in 3 months. And voila, after 8 months it’s here. Fast.
This company amazes me more with each release, just when I think they can’t screw up anymore, they do. Let’s wait for the next Elephone and all the stories and comments that this one will be different!
That’s the time I take to full charge my Jiayu S3 with no Fast Charge lol And this slow charge hurts me a lot that I bought a external dock to charge another battery lol
Thankfully fast charge is coming this month with a newer update, and 1.5 to fully charge will be the standard. I don’t know what Elephone mean with Fast Charge hehe
That’s the time I take to full charge my Jiayu S3 with no Fast Charge lol And this slow charge hurts me a lot that I bought a external dock to charge another battery lol
Thankfully fast charge is coming this month with a newer update, and 1.5 to fully charge will be the standard. I don’t know what Elephone mean with Fast Charge hehe
There’s something wrong here.
It has to be a mistake or something.
Maybe a secret 10000mAh battery explain that charge time 😛
Haha, when I see pigs flying 😉
I thought I am the only one that noticed that.
3 hours for 3000mAh is horrible.
There’s nothing fast on it!
Btw, did you get a new phone?
I saw the review of the Robin and didn’t fully convince me so at the end I went for the RN3 Pro.
Are you still going for the Robin?
Honest question: Since you already have a 2nd battery and a cradle (if I understood that correctly), why would you go back to fast charging when offered? You practically have insta-charge and typically the hassle of changing a battery is less than a minute…
I mean don’t take me wrong, I love fast charging and prefer to avoid the extra cost of a second battery, so I often don’t buy one … But you already have one (plus a cradle), why would you do away with it?
I am a true fan of Xiaomi. I only use Xiaomi phone.
You made the right choice.
Yeah, maybe I don’t use it much at the end. But it can be seriously useful when I’m other place without that second battery.
Also I would give some rest to the battery dents at board, as I’m always removing and putting battery on it.
Something is very wrong with Gizchina’s Elephone P9000. Youtuber s7yler made a review of elephone P9000 and it does support fast charging. He claimed that this phone with fast charger charged this phone from 0-100% in 87 minutes. Andi must have got a sample unit or defective device. Here’s the source below:
I use the removable feature in my Note 4 and nowhere else, the reason is that is the only phone that I really depend on, everything else frankly is for me to play with and eventually give them away to family members…
…anyway, when I’m taking my Note 4 to places (say holiday) instead of a charger I bring my spare + cradle. It’s hardly bigger than a charger (at least my cradle is) so It’s not a hassle to take with.
Is S3’s cradle big and unruly? Enough to warrant to take a charger with you instead of the cradle, or do you mean using other people’s chargers?
Thx Andi for great review. If you said you gonna be in Prague, we could go for some pints lol
Next time 😀
I will be there too..a little beer and phone meeting 😀
I echo the comment of Mi-fan. No review, good or bad, can address the historic quality issues of Elephones. In general it seems that they look good and have great specs and price. But the damn things often don’t work, either right away or after a few weeks or months.
I know that it is a small sample size, but on
the P8000 has 112 reviews. 66 lucky buyers are enthused by their phone, saying great value for money. Unfortunately, 18 buyers report non-functioning phones, so about a 15% fail rate. That’s the Elephone story until proven otherwise.
Luckily for the unsatisfied buyers, it is easy to return a phone to Amazon. It isn’t quite the same thing when you have to send it back to your chinese reseller who suddenly no longer understands English when you try to explain the problem!
The last line made me laugh as I think we all have experienced that at some point.
Wanted to buy this phone, but not anymore. Thanks Andi. Will wait for something from Meizu or xiaomi.
Gotta change that bad choice, Ecco E04, very bad choice, with something better
That camera is potato quality.
I was thinking about buying this phone too, but Elephone didn’t suprise me. Again. So I’ll wait for MWC and decide what to buy and throw my 4 years old HOX away.
good job Andi. I am happy that you like my Capital City (Prague). I was hoping that P9000 with this new camera sensor (IMX 258) will be a step forward in terms of quality and speed, but again I am dissapointed 🙁 As i know it is the same chip used in Xiaomi mi4c and as i read your review of xmi4c the image quality is far better than of P9000. Maybe due to lenses?
The difference between cameras in phone usually comes down to two things: lens and optimization. A lot of these cheaper companies use good sensors but then pair them with cheap lenses and they don’t spend anytime optimizing that sensor for their phone.
thats true, same sensor is used on Mi4c and its clearly better than IMX214.
Who mentioned the 214?
Was waiting for a GFXBench score, did it fail to complete it?
it did one test and failed on the rest
Spotted that run a few days ago, any other app problems?
Hang on a moment, I reset the phone and it seems and running GFXBench now and it seems to be running. I will update the review with the benchmarks once they have done.
Ok this time it all ran, added
Thanks.
I assume it doesn’t throttle but for that you would need to let it run the long term perf test and that takes a while.
Prague is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe.
Typical Elephone, they nail the specs and the design but fail in execution. They really need to stop trying to release a phone a month and focus on 1-2 really good products a year. That camera is beyond pathetic for a 2016 phone.
That’s Elephone we all knew. Common sense they can’t tap from Lenovo Zuk.
Elephone are explorers, so there will always encounter many problems, but it is also worthy of respect, because he dared to take risks. Of course, they do not rigorous, and give users a lot of problems, it is good practice, and they do it a complete mobile phone, and then sell, but they never do. elephone too anxious
Explorers? More like they are con artists, and I do respect them because they continue to con people with each new phone release.
Their marketing so many people lose confidence because elephone always exaggerate their product quality and delivery capabilities. elephone more interested in marketing than do products
You don’t understand… Do you remember the good old coca cola glass bottles? Sure the most of us used to like those bottles, so peculiar and vintage… That’s it! Elephone used the bottom of those bottles as lens for the camera, so the phone could appeal to the little hipster that is inside of us… That’s a thought out decision made on purpose, not elephone’s fault if you can’t appreciate a nice touch of vintage in a phone!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they used plastic coca cola bottles lol.
hhahahahahahhahahahaha
I find it interesting that nobody comments on the phones total dimensions. You’ve seen many phones you should know that this is the smallest 5.5 incher ever ever made (ever, as in in the history of phones). This is not a small achievement.
Elephone can’t make a winning camera option even if their life was depended on it, which is one of the reasons of why they should never price their phones more than $150 (they’re practically cameraless). That’s pretty much a known fact yet half this thread is about such a trite detail…
Depends how you define smallest. According to Elephones own numbers the P9000 is:
148.4 x 73.2
According to LG the G3 was:
146.3 x 74.7
Both could lay claim to that crown. But it is very impressive that Elephone managed to make such a small phone.
I mean total volume.
LG G3 managed equally small bezels, but their phone is also ~9mm thick. This Elephone is 7.3mm which to me is very impressive (if you also take in account the ultra thin bezels).
I had noticed that the height was several millimeters less than most other 5.5″ china phones, which are usually around 153 mm. Same for the weight (If the specs are accurate): 145g for a 5.5″ phone – Most other China phones are around 165-180g.
The good hto take out of this is that the Mtk P10 works great , EVEN when ELEPHONE is running the act. So that’s great news and it means that, for example, the use of that SoC by Gionee on the Elife S8 won’t disappoint.
It could disappoint with Gionee. It all comes down to Amigo UI, which so far has been one of the worst optimized UI’s on Android (and I am a Gionee fan).
On the other hand, charging time us something Andy should make more clear … Unless it is as obvious .
My 3500mah phone does 0-100% in 1:20minutes (80minutes) and 0-80% in 40minutes so this should be confirmed as even per ELEPHONE standards is a weird result …
If they did a software update addressing all that’s wrong but fixable that was mentioned, I think it would be a nice (risky) bargain value for the buck.
But if RISKY is to be considered, I would wait and see if DOOGEE’s mtk-X20 option is anything to hold the breath to.
Cheers!!!
Elephone will always be Elephone.
They don’t give a fuck to their customers. If you like complain till eternity, Elephone will do nothing
Why wait for Doogee another brand with terrible quality? Why not wait for the good brands that will be releasing at MWC?
Because there is still hope!!!
Gee, thats why i still keep coming here and found out about Gionee and their BLU partnership and got miself this wonderfull XL which i totally love.
If not i would quit gizchina, just to wait for mainstream flagships to drop price and get a Galaxy S6edge+ and look for a decent ROM from XDA , which is not a bad idea either.
Nevertheless I have great hope that one of this smaller brands will at some point flare a 1hitWonder to go crazy about.
This site is about a lot more than Doogee and Elephone. There is Xiaomi, Lenovo/Zuk, OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, UMi, Meizu, Huawei/Honor, Gionee, ZTE/Nubia, TCL and many more. Those are the “good” brands I was referring too.
lol , camera -4
Hey Andy i live in Prague ,it would have been so nice to meet you , i follow your website since many years , bu the way nice click hope u enjoyed urself
Elephone doing the shit they know how to do best.
Nice and fair review, Andy.
At the end of the day, elephone hasn’t changed much. Design and hardware selection did some step forward, but the rest (especially optimization and build quality), God save us.
P10 seems a pretty nice SoC for midrange tho, finally a step forward compared to the watered-down mt6752 the 6753 was.
That camera is potato quality.
Ulefone Future，Truly borderless mobile phone.
5.5inch FHD MT6755 4GB RAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kS3PI1Bw1k
I find it interesting that nobody comments on the phones total dimensions. You’ve seen many phones you should know that this is the smallest 5.5 incher ever ever made (ever, as in in the history of phones). This is not a small achievement.
Elephone can’t make a winning camera option even if their life was depended on it, which is one of the reasons of why they should never price their phones more than $150 (they’re practically cameraless). That’s pretty much a known fact yet half this thread is about such a trite detail…
Depends how you define smallest. According to Elephones own numbers the P9000 is:
148.4 x 73.2
According to LG the G3 was:
146.3 x 74.7
Both could lay claim to that crown. But it is very impressive that Elephone managed to make such a small phone.
I mean total volume.
LG G3 managed equally small bezels, but their phone is also ~9mm thick. This Elephone is 7.3mm which to me is very impressive (if you also take in account the ultra thin bezels).
I had noticed that the height was several millimeters less than most other 5.5″ china phones, which are usually around 153 mm. Same for the weight (If the specs are accurate): 145g for a 5.5″ phone – Most other China phones are around 165-180g.
Nice and fair review, Andy.
At the end of the day, elephone hasn’t changed much. Design and hardware selection did some step forward, but the rest (especially optimization and build quality), God save us.
P10 seems a pretty nice SoC for midrange tho, finally a step forward compared to the watered-down mt6752 the 6753 was.
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i think they will improve the performance of camera and touch ID, this model seems very important to Ele
Are you really willing to bet your money on “will improve”, when you can get the Redmi 3 or Honor 5X which are offer allot more stability and quality for the same(if not cheaper)price tag?
The laggy Honor 5x is no competitor for the P9000.
You sure? In my book it offers better built quality, better camera, much better battery life, you can change the stock launcher to Google Now and all you “lag” problems will be gone.
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Nope, i am just a disappointed former 5x owner. I own a LG G Flex 2 now. So muc better.
Everything I have read about the Honor 5x from journalists and forums alike is that it is an excellent mid range phone. Regardless of that what about the Elephone is better in your opinion?
Elephone is much better in everything, it is MUCH more responsive and more powerful and even mayvbe better optimized… but there is one sore point which is the camera. the build and design on P9000 is awesome. The display may be the best FHD screens out there, but the camera, oh the camera…
I haven’t used either so I cant say for sure. But what I can say without a doubt is it is definitely not better optimized. We know this because of how terrible the camera on the P9000 is, that shows us they spent no time optimizing this phone.
well, I have both. Honor 5X is great phone for the money and the fingerprnt reader is slightly better, its the same as on my Mate 8, but the phone feels slow compared to P9000 and the design and build quality are not as good. The battery life seems ok as well – 6 hours in PCMark battery test and it charges to 100 % in about 80 minutes using the supplied fast charger.
As for the troubles Andi has with the reader… didnt occur to me YET.
I got an email from Elephone this morning stating that camera and fingerprint reader will get an OTA update so they are awayre of their shortcommings. They improved M2 greatly after launch so I still have some hope as I love everything else about the P9000.
Not laggy, better CPU, double the RAM, double the
Internal Memory + tons of extras like NFC, Glonass, Gorilla Glass, 20MP Sony Cam, USB Type C, Wireless Charging etc.
“20 MP Cam”. The P9000 uses a 13mp camera and it is beyond terrible, that is not something to brag about.
Well ok it seems they changed that one, the plan was a better cam. But even if it the camera was a sheet of paper and a pencil, i would still pick the P9000 over the 5x, beacuse of my other points and the laggy 5x EMUI.
I would pick the Honor 5x because I know 4 months from now it will still work.
Well they are both China phones with international warranty and local service partners. So no problem at all. Have fun with your 5x.
I don’t have a 5x, I have no dog in this fight I just know the brand history of both, one is good (Huawei) the other is terrible (Elephone). Elephone’s international warranty is the equivalent of toilet paper, good luck when you need to get it repaired. And you will need to get it repaired.
Whatever dude, whatever.
i agree, but the price of them really attractive somehow
How, when known brands such as Xiaomi are offering better devices in every aspect for the same price?
Once again this phone offers almost nothing and the P10 will be outperformed by the SD 635 when it comes out and barely edges the SD 617.
Even at that price, I cannot recommend this phone, you will be much better off with the Honor 5X(better battery,camera and similar performance and just much, much better built quality), or even the Redmi 3, or Note 3 if you are willing to splash just a little bit more cash.
So, we have come to the same conclusion we always do, Elephone phones only look really good on paper until they are delayed for 2-3 months and by the time they’re out there is always something better on the market.
I think you mean SD 625 which by the time it appears in an actual phone, the Helios P20 will be out.
The SD 650 is out and it outperforms the P10 and X10 with a margin.
Redmi Note 3 Pro is available for 260$, why would you buy a P10 device for 200$?
Face it guys, this year Qualcomm have really upped their game from the sub-par SD615 and 810 results last year(although I do own an LG Flex 2 and it runs like a charm and does not overheat as well, and can still be bought for 250$)
Because it is $60 cheaper… For some people that $60 means a lot. Personally my next phone will be the SD820 powered Mi5. The P10 will be a great chip that appears in a variety of devices all prices under $200. Not everyone needs or wants the most powerful chip.
The SD625 will arrive at the same time as the P20 and , for now, we know it has lower CPU clocks.We also know that the SD625 only supports DDR3 while the P20 goes DDR4.
P10 has no competitor really, the SD617 is minor upgrade over 615 with max clocks at 1.5GHz, while P10 is a big step forward vs the MT6752 ,enabled by the new process ( TSMC’s 28HPC+).
The SD65x dominates a segment, the X20 goes above it and then there is the very high end.
As a reminder, more than half the phones shipped around the world are low end, so well bellow what an 8 core A63 offers.
Actually a higher clocked DDR3 is better than DDR4 with 200Mhz on top of that, becasue of the much lower latency.
I thought that we`ll see SD625/435 devices in the next two-three months and the P20 is expected maybe in October?
The SD625 will be a better than P10, even X10 chip(more modern design, faster modem, faster GPS, built on a much advanced fab process and will draw less power than the 28nm P10/X10 chips and will have better software support).
There is a huge gap at this point that only the SD650-652 fill(performance between mid and high end chips)
i think they will improve the performance of camera and touch ID, this model seems very important to Ele
Are you really willing to bet your money on “will improve”, when you can get the Redmi 3 or Honor 5X which are offer allot more stability and quality for the same(if not cheaper)price tag?
The laggy Honor 5x is no competitor for the P9000.
You sure? In my book it offers better built quality, better camera, much better battery life, you can change the stock launcher to Google Now and all you “lag” problems will be gone.
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Nope, i am just a disappointed former 5x owner. I own a LG G Flex 2 now. So muc better.
Everything I have read about the Honor 5x from journalists and forums alike is that it is an excellent mid range phone. Regardless of that what about the Elephone is better in your opinion?
Elephone is much better in everything, it is MUCH more responsive and more powerful and even mayvbe better optimized… but there is one sore point which is the camera. the build and design on P9000 is awesome. The display may be the best FHD screens out there, but the camera, oh the camera…
I haven’t used either so I cant say for sure. But what I can say without a doubt is it is definitely not better optimized. We know this because of how terrible the camera on the P9000 is, that shows us they spent no time optimizing this phone.
well, I have both. Honor 5X is great phone for the money and the fingerprnt reader is slightly better, its the same as on my Mate 8, but the phone feels slow compared to P9000 and the design and build quality are not as good. The battery life seems ok as well – 6 hours in PCMark battery test and it charges to 100 % in about 80 minutes using the supplied fast charger.
As for the troubles Andi has with the reader… didnt occur to me YET.
I got an email from Elephone this morning stating that camera and fingerprint reader will get an OTA update so they are awayre of their shortcommings. They improved M2 greatly after launch so I still have some hope as I love everything else about the P9000.
Not laggy, better CPU, double the RAM, double the
Internal Memory + tons of extras like NFC, Glonass, Gorilla Glass, 20MP Sony Cam, USB Type C, Wireless Charging etc.
“20 MP Cam”. The P9000 uses a 13mp camera and it is beyond terrible, that is not something to brag about.
Well ok it seems they changed that one, the plan was a better cam. But even if it the camera was a sheet of paper and a pencil, i would still pick the P9000 over the 5x, beacuse of my other points and the laggy 5x EMUI.
I would pick the Honor 5x because I know 4 months from now it will still work.
Well they are both China phones with international warranty and local service partners. So no problem at all. Have fun with your 5x.
I don’t have a 5x, I have no dog in this fight I just know the brand history of both, one is good (Huawei) the other is terrible (Elephone). Elephone’s international warranty is the equivalent of toilet paper, good luck when you need to get it repaired. And you will need to get it repaired.
Whatever dude, whatever.
i agree, but the price of them really attractive somehow
How, when known brands such as Xiaomi are offering better devices in every aspect for the same price?
omg Andi you were in prague, next time u must say before so i can meet you and check the phone personaly 🙂
Once again this phone offers almost nothing and the P10 will be outperformed by the SD 635 when it comes out and barely edges the SD 617.
Even at that price, I cannot recommend this phone, you will be much better off with the Honor 5X(better battery,camera and similar performance and just much, much better built quality), or even the Redmi 3, or Note 3 if you are willing to splash just a little bit more cash.
So, we have come to the same conclusion we always do, Elephone phones only look really good on paper until they are delayed for 2-3 months and by the time they’re out there is always something better on the market.
I think you mean SD 625 which by the time it appears in an actual phone, the Helios P20 will be out.
The SD 650 is out and it outperforms the P10 and X10 with a margin.
Redmi Note 3 Pro is available for 260$, why would you buy a P10 device for 200$?
Face it guys, this year Qualcomm have really upped their game from the sub-par SD615 and 810 results last year(although I do own an LG Flex 2 and it runs like a charm and does not overheat as well, and can still be bought for 250$)
Because it is $60 cheaper… For some people that $60 means a lot. Personally my next phone will be the SD820 powered Mi5. The P10 will be a great chip that appears in a variety of devices all prices under $200. Not everyone needs or wants the most powerful chip.
The SD625 will arrive at the same time as the P20 and , for now, we know it has lower CPU clocks.We also know that the SD625 only supports DDR3 while the P20 goes DDR4.
P10 has no competitor really, the SD617 is minor upgrade over 615 with max clocks at 1.5GHz, while P10 is a big step forward vs the MT6752 ,enabled by the new process ( TSMC’s 28HPC+).
The SD65x dominates a segment, the X20 goes above it and then there is the very high end.
As a reminder, more than half the phones shipped around the world are low end, so well bellow what an 8 core A63 offers.
Actually a higher clocked DDR3 is better than DDR4 with 200Mhz on top of that, becasue of the much lower latency.
I thought that we`ll see SD625/435 devices in the next two-three months and the P20 is expected maybe in October?
The SD625 will be a better than P10, even X10 chip(more modern design, faster modem, faster GPS, built on a much advanced fab process and will draw less power than the 28nm P10/X10 chips and will have better software support).
There is a huge gap at this point that only the SD650-652 fill(performance between mid and high end chips)
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omg Andi you were in prague, next time u must say before so i can meet you and check the phone personaly 🙂
I have conspiracy theory for you, what if Xiaomi is behind elephone and making the devices bad on purpose so that people are going for Mi devices as they have better quality. Just take a look at my work of art in paint (got to much time i know)
That tinfoil hat of yours should improve your GPS
Y take everything so seriously
No comments by Hexa today?
I have conspiracy theory for you, what if Xiaomi is behind elephone and making the devices bad on purpose so that people are going for Mi devices as they have better quality. Just take a look at my work of art in paint (got to much time i know)
That tinfoil hat of yours should improve your GPS
Y take everything so seriously
I am about to say something that might potentially get me shot 🙂 but..Based on everyone’s favorite measure Antutu, the P10 is a bit of a disappointment. My MTK6752 powered M1 Note scores 49000. I know this far from the be all and end all but based on that alone they have basically created a chip at somewhere near the same level. Which isn’t a terrible level(my phone is more than capable) but the competitors have chips that are seemingly huge leaps ahead of their previous generation..
Antutu is the worst way to judge a SoC. With each new iteration of Antutu the scores get higher further diluting what the numbers actually mean. For instance iPhone 6 scores 59,000 in Antutu 5 but 123,000 in Antutu 6. Now the numbers should correlate so other phones that scored in the high 50’s in A5 should be scoring in the 120’s in A6. But that isn’t the case the S6 Edge scores 64000 in A5 but only 79,000 in A6. Useless metric.
That is the thing that annoys me as well about them. The ruler changes length with each update. I think this is due to chips having new capabilities with each generation. I think they said with 6 it takes the GPU more into account. The thing is though, I tested mine with the same version as they tested the 9000(version v6.0.1).
They made all these changes in the latest version to bring the iphones back on top. Silly paid guys.
I am about to say something that might potentially get me shot 🙂 but..Based on everyone’s favorite measure Antutu, the P10 is a bit of a disappointment. My MTK6752 powered M1 Note scores 49000. I know this far from the be all and end all but based on that alone they have basically created a chip at somewhere near the same level. Which isn’t a terrible level(my phone is more than capable) but the competitors have chips that are seemingly huge leaps ahead of their previous generation..
Antutu is the worst way to judge a SoC. With each new iteration of Antutu the scores get higher further diluting what the numbers actually mean. For instance iPhone 6 scores 59,000 in Antutu 5 but 123,000 in Antutu 6. Now the numbers should correlate so other phones that scored in the high 50’s in A5 should be scoring in the 120’s in A6. But that isn’t the case the S6 Edge scores 64000 in A5 but only 79,000 in A6. Useless metric.
That is the thing that annoys me as well about them. The ruler changes length with each update. I think this is due to chips having new capabilities with each generation. I think they said with 6 it takes the GPU more into account. The thing is though, I tested mine with the same version as they tested the 9000(version v6.0.1).
They made all these changes in the latest version to bring the iphones back on top. Silly paid guys. All this leaded to confusion when comparing phones scores and the chart now is unrealistic!
Who buys this garbage there are plenty of reliable Chinese manufacturers that cost the same or maybe 10$ more and you can rest assured that your phone will be perfectly fine still in a years time.
I am cancelling my pre-order. I was hoping that the camera would be at least good. So much for the laser aided focus and Sony sensor.
A Sony sensor doesn’t mean anything if they use cheap lenses and don’t optimize it.
Cancelled my order for p9000 today not because of review but supplier has informed me that they will not be able to ship product for at least another month as Elephone has broken it’s promise to deliver the phones to supplier by end of the first week in March. supplier has informed me that he needs an additional 20 business days from beginning of March before being able to ship product.
I am cancelling my pre-order. I was hoping that the camera would be at least good. So much for the laser aided focus and Sony sensor.
A Sony sensor doesn’t mean anything if they use cheap lenses and don’t optimize it.
Cancelled my order for p9000 today not because of review but supplier has informed me that they will not be able to ship product for at least another month as Elephone has broken it’s promise to deliver the phones to supplier by end of the first week in March. supplier has informed me that he needs an additional 20 business days from beginning of March before being able to ship product.
I’m not disappoint from my LeTV x600, and Andy gave for it 9 or 9.5 points. P9000 got only 7.1 points. Is it really worse from my x600? Some strange, because P9000 have better specs..
BTW, LeTV it’s my first phone that i’m not disappoint after a month and half of using. With MIUI7 just flawless. Thanks to Andi!
P9000 wins at what? And yes X600 is a better phone: faster cpu, superior cam.
I’m not disappoint from my LeTV x600, and Andy gave for it 9 or 9.5 points. P9000 got only 7.1 points. Is it really worse from my x600? Some strange, because P9000 have better specs..
BTW, LeTV it’s my first phone that i’m not disappoint after a month and half of using. With MIUI7 just flawless. Thanks to Andi!
P9000 wins at what? And yes X600 is a better phone: faster cpu, superior cam.
An average phone I would say. Doesn’t shine at anything.
An average phone I would say. Doesn’t shine at anything.
TBH Id much rather have the redmi note 3 pro model with snapdragon 650 than this.
TBH Id much rather have the redmi note 3 pro model with snapdragon 650 than this.
I am extremely unhappy about this telephone.
It randomly changes the language I have set up. Everytime i light up the screen comes up with one of the 3 languages i speak.
It sends tons of text messages in chinese to the recovery telephones i have set up.
Keeps freezing and asking me for all the passwords again.
In whatsapp, when i leave an audio message, it doesnt’ recognize my finger on the record button and stop recording randomly or keeps recording when i have already removed my finger from the screen….
It freezes all the time !!
it is a NIGHTMARE !
Definetely not worth all the money i paid for it.
I want to return it.
Try to flash it with official ROM from elephone. A lot of times the distributors change the ROM and add malware and it contains a lot of bugs. I personally hate Elephone because of it’s poor quality devices in general but I hope this may help you.
I am extremely unhappy about this telephone.
It randomly changes the language I have set up. Everytime i light up the screen comes up with one of the 3 languages i speak.
It sends tons of text messages in chinese to the recovery telephones i have set up.
Keeps freezing and asking me for all the passwords again.
In whatsapp, when i leave an audio message, it doesnt’ recognize my finger on the record button and stop recording randomly or keeps recording when i have already removed my finger from the screen….
It freezes all the time !!
it is a NIGHTMARE !
Definetely not worth all the money i paid for it.
I want to return it.
Try to flash it with official ROM from elephone. A lot of times the distributors change the ROM and add malware and it contains a lot of bugs. I personally hate Elephone because of it’s poor quality devices in general but I hope this may help you.
I own a Samsung S7 Edge, but I have to say, from all those Chinese phones I had Meizu and LeTV were the best.
I own a Samsung S7 Edge, but I have to say, from all those Chinese phones I had Meizu and LeTV were the best.
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The Elephone P9000 with Helio P10, 4GB RAM and 32GB ROM is quite a good mid-end smartphone, but for the price, it doesn’t suit for me. Bluoo maya is best with my budget so i decide to buy Bluboo Maya, this is amazing phone that comes with decent specs and according to Bluboo, brings high-quality Sony IMX sensor camera and price only at $69.99.
The Elephone P9000 with Helio P10, 4GB RAM and 32GB ROM is quite a good mid-end smartphone, but for the price, it doesn’t suit for me. Bluoo maya is best with my budget so i decide to buy Bluboo Maya, this is amazing phone that comes with decent specs and according to Bluboo, brings high-quality Sony IMX sensor camera and price only at $69.99.
I want to buy a budget smartphone around $100, and it is better to be with big screen, do you guys have any good suggestion. which phone is good for me ?
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