Yes, that’s correct! Meizu are testing their staff’s knowledge on the yet to be released Meizu M3 Note phone.
The following questionnaire has been handed out to Meizu staff to test their knowledge of the companies upcoming smartphone. The multi choice quiz also helps to shed some light on what specs the new phone might have.
There are no definitive clues here other than the new M3 will have a screen larger than 5-inches, will feature Meizu’s Mback and that the main rivals for the phone are the Xiaomi Mi4S and Mi4C.
The possible answers are quite interesting and could mean a Meizu M3 with battery size of up to 3500mAh , full network support, and either a Mediatek or Snapdragon chipset.
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We would guess that the Meizu M3 will feature a 5.5-inch FHD display like previous versions, and Mediatek Helio P10 processor as it is unlikely that Meizu will use a Qualcomm chip in their budget phone while the Pro 6 is confirmed to use a Helio X25 CPU.
From the questionnaire what features would you chose for the next budget Meizu?
latest Pro 6 leak but i wouldn’t bet much on it being fully real
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What am I missing besides greedy business sense???
And would you like to have something similar if the design and price was decent?
Or you just could not live with the combination of features? What would you change?
I know you are very educated in tech and stuff, that’s why I ask, because I’m not.
Maybe just a few thoughts since i could ponder for days about it.
I would want 0 bezels all around including upper and lower and , if we go crazy, foldable screen – that would have to be OLED and then i would insist on a RGB stripe not Pentile. Foldable would also likely mean that the aspect ratio when folded might be better at 4:3, to not have a square when unfolded.
Upper and lower bezels and foldable screen wrapped around the phone would mean no room for the cams so a pop-up cam would be needed and if we go this way we might as well have more than 2 sensors for 360 VR video. And i would hope that the quantumfilm sensors from InVisage turn up as great as they could be. For 360 video a bunch of mics would be needed too, 3D audio matters.
On the SoC side i would want 2 big cores at high clocks, 4 big cores at lower clocks for gaming (to save power and allow more room for the GPU) and a bunch of smaller ones. I would also like a neuromorphic compute unit and an OS that takes good advantage of it..For the SoCs packaging i would want FOWLP with the memory next to the SoC not in PoP. Lets go crazy again and after the RAM use some PCIe/NVM/e connected Xpoint. Some NAND for the sake of it and ofc a microSD slot.
Don’t like biometrics as i see them as weak security, i’m ok with IR blaster and i like wifi ad so would be nice to have that. I do want the touch screen to work with gloves and in high humidity.Pressure sensitive touch is ok but the software needs to take better advantage of it. Integrating things like a satellite emergency beacon and an air quality sensor could be interesting.
If the screen would not be foldable, i would like solar on the back, for just in case.
Anyway, just having some fun with some quick thoughts while wishing for things we might get in some years. Right now phones are a bit boring overall. The SoC market is fun this year ofc but other than that , not much.
Wonderful 😀 see there’s some fun in making wish lists …
Now, meizu and Verne said they could end up using 6gbRAM do you think it is possible??? Even if it is just for bragging rights???
Maybe but likely with complications. Not sure if anyone makes 6GB LPDDR3 in a single package, you barely have such a product for DDR4.
Not sure you even want 6GB LPDDR3, could get iffy for battery life if you actually use it.
I do not find myself friendly about budgets phones any more… I kind of grew away from frustration when wanting to do something my previous phones couldn’t but it was not their fault but mine for getting them while knowing they were “budget” I won’t fool myself thinking I can do without many of the features …. Thats also what many think when they rather wait for flagships to drop price and buy them used or reduced price.
Still there are many people on board who are well fitted to a budget phones.
I am actually kinda the opposite at the moment. I bought a M1 note a year ago and I have yet to see it taxed. I think its due to the 6752 inside here. I think Mediateks best chip to date(my opinion, I think the performance is very close to the X10). I say that because I am able to play Nova 3 and Modern Combat 5 almost flawlessly, I haven’t seen any game thats unplayable. I tried Mortal Kombat X on here as well. Thanks to Meizu’s support since Flyme 5, I am literally getting Beta updates once a week for it, the OS has pretty much become perfect. I don’t really see any reason to upgrade.
The Mediatek Helio P10 should be the successor to the MT6752 from a performance point.
I don’t know, I feel like the P10 performance level is what the successor should have been last year when the M2 Note was released considering the strides Qualcomm has made.The benchmarks from the Elephone Andi reviewed with a P10 in it had scores very close to what my Note is getting.Anyway I am keen to see what Meizu will get out of it since Flyme is always well optimized. I am also keen to check out what the MX6 has to offer or wait for the price of the MX5 pro to fall(I have noticed it is also getting regular OS updates). If it falls to the levels the 16gig MX4 pro has with the specs it has and a well optimized OS. It will be a seriously good deal in 6 months to a years time.
Geekbench for MT6755 (Helio P10) single/multi core results= 800/3000
https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?page=3&q=mt6755&utf8=%E2%9C%93
For MT6753 we have 800/4000
https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=mt6752
Think you meant 6752 in this post. The scores for the 53 are much lower.
Correct,it was a typing error. I edited it just now.
Ja, I just tested mine and I got 799/4190 which kind of confirms what I thought. Having said all the that, the performance level should be more than good enough for people in this segment.
I have been looking at meizu for my next android phone, i wanted to buy the meizu metal in the next week, but none of the reliable sellers that have them in the eu warehouse have the gray version (the one with the black front) for some reason they only have the ugly white version. I guess i could wait and see what the M3 would be like, i wouldnt have a problem with it being a p10 instead of the x10, they better have the black one in stock tough.
Also does anyone else know any upcoming chinese phones that will run windows 10?
No more than 150 euros tough, since it is a secondary phone (i have a lumia 435 and i have been loving windows phone).
to be fair in my opinion the metal is really not that good with flyme 2gb rams are not that much fun.
The problem is every phone that i find available in a eu warehouse that costs no more than 215 euros shiped with 3gb of ram has the mtk6753, i would rather have a Soc with P10 level of performance and sacrifice some multitasking capabilities. Not to mention that most of those 3gb ram phones are from brands like elephone and cubot… so.. yeah…
I feel the same. PS: Yes, Elephone M3 (3GB) model for example.
how much storage do you need? and a sd card slot?
if it only has 16gb than it definitely needs an sd card slot.
http://www.oppomart.com/meizu/metal/meizu-metal.html
Oppomart has stock of the gray/black model (at least as of me typing this they do).
Have you had any experiences with oppomart?
Yea they have been around for a while. I ordered one from them and there weren’t any issues.
Thanks, they are also cheaper compared to the other resellers i was looking at.
Those specs makes me think that it gonna cost 799 yuan rather than 999 like its predecessor.
With that Note moniker smaller than 5.5″ is unthinkable. After Note 2, using MT6753 again wouldn’t be smart choice. Snapdragon 615/616 doesn’t offer much improvement over MT6753 too IMO.
Smaller than 3K battery is unthinkable for that category. While Xiaomi introduced 4K batteries, less than 3K not to mention would be smaller than its predecessor’s moreover it won’t be much different than suicide. Doesn’t matter even if it can provide a decent battery life, it will be a marketing nightmare.
So Helio P10, 5.5″ and at least 3100mAh battery most likely 16GB storage and 2GB RAM will be on board with 799 yuan price tag.
Even at such a low price point it have to offer metal body and fingerprint scanner against Redmi Note 3.
Not budget phones for me:
This is what everyone wants needs (((except for the sd820s and exynos and kirin people)))
A. SuperAmoled 5.7″screen at 2K dual edged
B. 4200+mah Battery+fast charGE
C. X25 or X20 SoC at 6gbRam DDR4 if possible
D. Backlit android buttons and on-screen option
E. Dedicated camera button
F. 8mpx front camera + F1.8 wide angle
G. 18mpx Main Can +F1.8+PdAf+OiS+laserAF
H. Good Vanilla ROM OS and camera app
I. Hi-Fi audios and Dual-Front Speakers with DTS
J. RGB notification light
K. Triple-tone Led Flash main and dual tone front.
L. 64GB storage ONLY plus 200gb sd-card-reader
M. IR blaster for those into that
N. Miracast and screen controls should be a MUST
O. DUAL-FINGERPRINT READERS with scroll and buttons options with customizable actions
P. Full international network support, not to be guessing if and if…
Hope they won’t flag me this time hehehehe
I would rather have a 1080p screen, the battery and performance hit that the 2k screen would cause to me its not worth it, 2k on something that is 6 inches or less, seems like more of a gimmick so that you can tell people that you have a 2k screen.
6gb of ram seems a bit overkill, i would be happy with 4gb
The rom, i actually wouldn’t mind if it wasn’t vanilla, if it was good, thats why i have been looking at meizu, Flyme seems like something i would like and MIUI aswell.
Dual front speakers.. hm i wouldn’t mind having them, but i think i would rarely use them, i think i would stick with headphones.
2 fingerprint readers? what? why 2? 1 does the job.
Here is my opinion on your points:
A) 5.5″ LCD screen with 1080P
B) 4000mAh battery + fast charge (plus qi charging if possible)
C) X20 SoC and 3GB Ram
D) physical capacitive buttons
E) i don’t need that
F) 3 mPx selfiecam enough
G) 3 mPx with OIS and no low light noise
H) yes, near stock Android
I) I don’t need front speaker, they just make the phone bigger
J) notification light could be useful
K) xenon flash instead of LED for main camera, no need for selfiecam flash
L) 32GB onboard rom + sd card slot
M) IR remote function is ok
N) Miracast should be standard since Android 4.x If I remember
O) Fingerprint reader on the side
P) support world wide bands
Meizu wouldn’t release a near stock Android and Xenon flash is better but it is usually a lot bulkier and more power hungry than LED. I never use flash anyways but those are the main reasons everyone uses LED these days.
I would love to see someone release a Xenon flash in an Android phone. Just to set the cat amongst the pigeons. I do miss a Xenon flash on my phone…
Super AMOLED means Pentile,means fake pixels ,means higher power usage and higher costs and all just to get a thinner screen. It’s a really bad idea to go this way. OLED with a RGB stripe would be another matter but it seems too much to expect that from any phone maker.
You can’t pair DDR4 with the X20 and there is no such thing as support for all the bands in the world, there are just too many.
Super AMOLED doesn’t necessarily mean PenTile. Diamond PenTile makes them cheaper and increasing lifetime. Also it doesn’t make them more power hungry.
Super AMOLED does mean Pentile as it is just a Samsung branding and the branding for Samsung’s RGB stripe OLED is Super AMOLED Plus.
As for the other part of your claim, the issue with Pentile is that they fake the pixels out of just 2 subpixels. An additional problem with OLED is that the subpixels are a lot smaller than in LCD and a lot of the screen is empty space.
And i never said that Pentile makes it more power hungry, just that OLED is using more power than LCD.
I see now, I get it wrong what you mean. My claim was PenTile doesn’t mean higher cost, higher power usage comparison to RGB stripe, just OLEDs are more expensive than LCD.
I’m sure you know that OLED vs LCD power consumption comparison isn’t that simple. OLEDs are more power efficient up to 65% Average Picture Level according to Displaymate. After that point LCD became more efficient.
It obviously more efficient for always on display feature.
It also provides better viewing angles, much better contrast, better sunlight visibility, faster response time.
Also thinner profile means you can fit larger batteries at same thickness or you can make camera modules less protruding if it’s placed right behind display.
Sure they are expensive, less efficient at white heavy contents, PenTile cause a visible pattern at lower resolutions, sub pixels may burn out at extended usages.
Overall in actual usage OLED does end up using more power, for now. I don’t have a problem with OLED in general, i actually like it but i do have a problem with Pentile and would love to see some phone makers go RGB, especially as OLED is what drives curved, foldable and VR.
Galaxy Note 2 Super AMOLED is not Pentile, your argument is invalid.
I don’t want or need a 2k display or backlit Android buttons (which Meizu doesn’t use anyways). Also who makes an 18mp sensor?
I don’t know who… But BLACKBERRY has one and its very capable of 4k and stuff you tubers say. They also say its very promising and with the updates record that BlackBerry has on android it’s becoming a really good camera …
Could someone take a picture with the google translate app and let it translate that questionnaire? Since I don’t have smartphone I can’t use it and google translate on pc doesn’t have the “translate image via OCR-function”.
Very interesting
It’s gonna have larger than 5-in screen, so it isn’t going to compete directly with Mi4c/4s for sure. The two Xiaomi devices are mainly choosen by these who don’t want anything bigger than 5-in, so they aren’t gonna be looking at something like M3 Note. Meziu marketing guys made a mistake here imho.
is there not going to be a nomral m3 with 5 inch? non note version
They should include Snapdragon 650 as the choice. Who made this questionnaire?