After a healthy wait and lots of anticipation, Xioami finally unveiled the Surge S1 chipset and Xiaomi Mi5C. Here are the first Antutu results.
Xiaomi launched the Xiaomi Mi5C as a budget variant of the current Xiaomi Mi5 flagship phone but to make the handset extra special they chose the phone to be the first device to come with their very own SoC.
Xiaomi Mi5C Antutu
The Surge S1 chipset is an octacore processor running 4 x Cortex A53 cores at 2.2Ghz and 4 at a lower 1.4Ghz. Like Qualcomm and Mediatek multicore processors, the Surge S1 is designed to use it’s more powerful cores for taxing applications and the slower (lower power) cores for day to day usage. Xiaomi also equipped the Surge S1 with a Mali T860 GPU and claims that the 28nm chipset is 40% more energy efficient than similar models.
So how does the performance of the Surge S1 chipset stack up against rival chipsets? Well the Xiaomi Mi5C with the S1 managed an Antutu benchmark score of 58,323 points. In comparison a Meditek Helio P20 manages around 64,143 and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 60,948 points.
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Obviously the Surge S1 chipset is way down on power compared to the rival SoC’s. One possible explanation could be that the phone tested was a pre-production model, and that production phones will see better optimisations and a better benchmark. There is also the case that Antutu isn’t a very accurate method of judging a phones performance and we really need to get the phone in our hands to see what it really performs like.
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While the benchmarks aren’t all that spectacular, we are quite impressed with the camera samples that have been released. The Xiaomi Mi5C comes equipped with a rear 12 megapixel camera with a pixel size of 1.25 uM. The camera comes with optimisations for low-light shooting to reduce noise and enhance details.
Again we need a sample phone to get a good idea of how well the Xiaomi Mi5C camera really performs but these samples are very promising!
I could be wrong but I think its the IMX 386, the same one that Meizu has used on a few of their models.
I could be wrong but I think its the IMX 386, the same one that Meizu has used on a few of their models.
Samples are always nice… Real life stuffs are always differents
Samples are always nice… Real life stuffs are always differents
Mi4c is better 20nm fab.
Mi4c is more powerful due to the A57 cores found in the SD808, being on 20nm has little to do with it. The SD650 is a better all around chip than the SD808, it is built on 28nm. The question will be how the efficiency of the Surge compares to these two.
The transistor count has plenty to do with it. The 808 is a better gaming SoC than the 650.
On paper yes it is, in actual performance the 650 does better in everything from gaming to efficiency. The 808 is an under clocked 810 and still suffers from many of the latter’s problems.
The 650 has consistently lower frame rates as it’s GPU is weaker. The 650 has newer A72 cores which are a year ahead of A57 but not much faster thanks to the better fab the 808 is built upon.
Except it doesn’t and it’s GPU isn’t weaker. The Adreno 510 in the 650 is Direct X 12.1 compatible, operates at a higher clock speed and is built on 14nm fab, the 418 is only Direct X 11.1 compatible and is built on 20nm. In actual gaming performance done by Notebook check the 510 achieves higher sustained and average FPS:
Dead Trigger 2 :
Adreno 510 – 56 fps
Adreno 418 – 36 fps
Asphalt 8: Airborne
Adreno 510 – 30fps (low settings), 26 fps (high settings)
Adreno 418 – 29fps (low settings), 27fps (high settings)
The Adreno 510 is very similar to the Adreno 310 that is found in the SD810 according to Notebook check. According to ARM themselves, the A72 provides 50% more performance and 15% better power consumption. The power consumption will be about equal because of the 28nm vs 20nm but the 650 has the more power efficient GPU. The A72 is still much more powerful than the A57. Don’t be confused by the fact that they call it a 600 series cpu, and the 600 is usually midrange. The 650 and 652 sit just below the 820/821 and 810.
AnTuTu scores the Mi4c at 19.9k and the RN3 Pro at 17.5k 3D scores. The difference is obvious.
I provide actual fps’s results and you counter with Antutu 3D scores? LOL. Here are more actual tests (not simulated ones like Antutu) from GFX Bench comparing the two:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&did1=28864307&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+(TM)+510&D2=Xiaomi+MI+4C+(Adreno+418)
The RN3 performs better in nearly every test.
Yes, I counter with the industry standard benchmark. LOL 10 million downloads vs 100k… the difference is obvious.
Mi4c is more powerful due to the A57 cores found in the SD808, being on 20nm has little to do with it. The SD650 is a better all around chip than the SD808, it is built on 28nm. The question will be how the efficiency of the Surge compares to these two.
The transistor count has plenty to do with it. The 808 is a better gaming SoC than the 650.
On paper yes it is, in actual performance the 650 does better in everything from gaming to efficiency. The 808 is an under clocked 810 and still suffers from many of the latter’s problems.
The 650 has consistently lower frame rates as it’s GPU is weaker. The 650 has newer A72 cores which are a year ahead of A57 but not much faster thanks to the better fab the 808 is built upon.
Except it doesn’t and it’s GPU isn’t weaker. The Adreno 510 in the 650 is Direct X 12.1 compatible, operates at a higher clock speed and is built on 14nm fab, the 418 is only Direct X 11.1 compatible and is built on 20nm. In actual gaming performance done by Notebook check the 510 achieves higher sustained and average FPS:
Dead Trigger 2 :
Adreno 510 – 56 fps
Adreno 418 – 36 fps
Asphalt 8: Airborne
Adreno 510 – 30fps (low settings), 26 fps (high settings)
Adreno 418 – 29fps (low settings), 27fps (high settings)
The Adreno 510 is very similar to the Adreno 310 that is found in the SD810 according to Notebook check. According to ARM themselves, the A72 provides 50% more performance and 15% better power consumption. The power consumption will be about equal because of the 28nm vs 20nm but the 650 has the more power efficient GPU. The A72 is still much more powerful than the A57. Don’t be confused by the fact that they call it a 600 series cpu, and the 600 is usually midrange. The 650 and 652 sit just below the 820/821 and 810.
AnTuTu scores the Mi4c at 19.9k and the RN3 Pro at 17.5k 3D scores. The difference is obvious.
I provide actual fps’s results and you counter with Antutu 3D scores? LOL. Here are more actual tests (not simulated ones like Antutu) from GFX Bench comparing the two:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&did1=28864307&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=Qualcomm+Adreno+(TM)+510&D2=Xiaomi+MI+4C+(Adreno+418)
The RN3 performs better in nearly every test.
Yes, I counter with the industry standard benchmark. LOL 10 million downloads vs 100k… the difference is obvious.