UMi have been launching smartphones one after another and with the UMi Rome and Rome X some people are a little confused to the differences of these phones, so lets clear things up.
First of all we haven’t tried either device, and we are going off specifications listed on the official UMidigi website, so if you find any detail that’s incorrect from your own device please let us know.
UMi Rome vs UMi Rome X
Externally both these 5.5-inch phones are the same and follow the same Samsung Galaxy S6 design, but with the curve on the rear rather than on the display and both have the same dimensions (153.8 x 77 x 7.9mm).
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Looking at the hardware of each phone is where things are a different though. The specifications for each phone can be found in the table below.
[go_pricing id=”umi_rome_56a8a538bb534″]The major differences of the two phones are that the UMi Rome offers more RAM, internal memory, LTE support, better display, and more powerful octacore chipset. It comes down to your usage if the additional $45 RRP over the UMi Rome X is worth it though.
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Looking at the title I initially thought it was going to be a joke…
But then it kinda is isn’t it…
Yea I was going to say One has X and the other doesn’t lol. But looking at these phones there is very little of interest here. If the Rome was a P10 phone with a better camera it would be much more attractive.
And the desing imo isn’t a turn off either…
It’s not AMOLED
According to UMi’s website it is…..
http://www.umidigi.com/page-umi_rome.html
According to UMi the battery is 2500mah, so what?
It is AMOLED……
…kind of
It might not a good AMOLED, but it’s still an AMOLED nonetheless.
If this is AMOLED theb why can you see white light leaks from the edges?
Also, if you display a completely black picture, and then turn off the screen, there shouldn’t be any difference (just like on Samsung phones). Here there clearly is, and the blacks look similar to IPS screens.
stop using samsung as an example, the quality is not on par are you hard of hearing/reading.. lol , you are specultating i have put up hard facts on the model for the screen
Or maybe you’re a slow brained person who is easily influenced by marketing lies.
No matter what is the quality of the screen, a real AMOLED (Samsung or not) shouldn’t have a backlight panel
I don’t have the phone and haven’t seen any images of what you are talking about so I can only go by the companies actually specs. Do you have images?
it is amoled but not samsung standard, lol once people hear amoled they assume that all amoleds are made equally.. spoiled spoiled consumers
take a look at these two things:
http://www.panelook.com/E555HBM2_EDO_5.5_OLED_overview_25401.html
http://peecee.dk/uploads/122015/s7yler.jpg
It’s worse than SGS1’s screen.
Hell, it’s even worse than a decent quality IPS screen.
You get what you pay for.
They should try something like ‘Rome X gets 5% more customer support than normal Rome”.
I wish someone would do a write up comparing the different Mediatek SoCs, so people know what to expect.
What I know is:
* the MT6753 1.3Ghz tends to score about 620|2850 in gb3 (about on par with a snapdragon 801) and 37.5k in antutu
* the MT6752 is better, clocked at 1.7Ghz and scores aobut 10k higher in antutu
(the antutu score is on par with the snapdragon 801)
* the Helio P10 (MT6755) scores around 880|4500 in some devices, and 880|3350 in others.
Yeah the amount of RAM is far more important at this point. I keep reminding people whenever I find the chance. For example I think it was a great mistake from Xiaomi to equip Redmi Note with only 2Gigs, killed its longevity…
Yes and no. It really depends on the end user. Some people will never need more than 2GB of RAM, others will. For some GPU is more important than anything because they play a lot of games. For others camera is most important (like me). If I had a choice between a 2GB phone with an amazing camera or a 4GB phone with an average camera I would trade the memory in a heartbeat.
You always need more than 2GB of RAM whether you feel it or not. You’ll simply experience it as a slower phone (more reloads). If you mean “OK, but it doesn’t matter to me, the phone is snappy enough as it is”, then we’re in agreement but I didn’t say anything different.
“Performance wise RAM amount is the most important spec” (that’s all I said really).
Respectively, Gaming Wise is GPU (obviously)
And if you like taking photos 3 things matter, SoC abilities for post-processing, the OS’s implementation of it and (of course) the physical hardware (the camera).
Basically that’s why it’s so hard to find good cameras in low-end, it can only be done by companies that care even about the slightest thing.
You may personally always need more than 2GB of RAM, but that is not the case of everyone. It depends largely on what you do with your phone, what apps you use, your UI that your running etc. For some people 2GB is more than they will ever need or use, more won’t make a difference. RAM that isn’t being used offers no performance advantage.
As for cameras there a good cameras at the low end and terrible ones. There are good cameras at the high end and terrible ones. The difference is often in two things: the software and the optics. Most SoC’s today can handle post-processing without any difficulties and most phones use good sensors from Sony, Samsung, OVI and Toshiba. The problem is many of them never optimize the camera and many use cheap lenses.
There are SoCs still on the low end that can’t handle the post processing due to the extremely weak GPU (mt6580 comes to mind).
Again, you confuse Linux with Windows, there is no such thing as unused RAM in Linux kernel. All Ram is used at all times, that’s why after a day or so of use you’re going to see your ram consumption at 80%+ even if you made light use. Ram has multiple uses, one is temporary storage for app functions at the time that it is being used, but another is being used as a ramdisk. If your phone has an aggressive ram management (like Samsung devices do), then you’d see more “free” ram than in the rest of the phones. That’s generally a bad thing and one of the reasons that Samsung phones feel slower than what their hardware suggests… Unused ram is useless ram.
Again no one mentioned Windows except you. All RAM is not used at all times in Android. Android has what is called minfree settings that prevents itself from using all the RAM available. Samsung Phones feel slower because of their incredibly bloated UI that is filled with crapware that hogs resources. Samsung is the worst example you could use.
“Free RAM” is fantasy, you only think such a thing exists because Microsoft spoilt people’s understanding of how/what RAM works/is. (hence why I referred to Microsoft)
RAM is more like the CPU than normal storage. You can’t say I don’t use 100% of my CPU so I only need it to max at 50%. Some processes always do, even if it’s for a split second, it’s inevitable.
I don’t know why is that for you to understand though. Just because your phone is weak doesn’t mean that how computers work would change. Yeah, you have a slower phone. So what? It’s the compromise you bought so that to have other things like better camera and/or GPU. Others care for neither so I advice them to *always* buy more ram.
What you call as minfree settings (BTW) is to what I referred as “RAM management”. Same concept, just how Android names it, due to that you’ll never see your ram being 100%, but it’s actually 100% used, in fact that’s exactly what minfree’s point is. Every process needs some “free” RAM at all times, if all was used for caching it would be impossible for an app to compute. Hence why I told you that RAM’s point is both to assist to computation (routines’ tables, calculations) *and* cache apps.
In Windows things are different. Caching is used only sparingly and RAM is mostly used for computation processes. So if RAM starts getting low instead of the “RAM management” mechanism that Linux Kernel employs, it uses a pagefile.
Also one of the reasons that Samsung phones are slower is/are the constant reloads of data (the CPU has to go through main storage to restore data to the screen), that’s probably one of the greatest reasons of Samsung’s slowness. Inefficient coding is only secondary in the long run (you wouldn’t have to constantly call inefficient code if its results were already stored on ram)…
Except I don’t have a weak phone at all nice try. Again you bring up Windows which NO ONE was talking about. Windows had ZERO to do with this conversation but yet you keep mentioning it.
You spoke about free ram. Free ram only exists in Windows. So you spoke about Windows…
BTW I don’t know what phone you own, but it has to be weak for you you to defend 2GB phones so much. BTW weak is a relative term, it’s weaker than a 4gb phone, but not in a way that would affect you sense of controlling it (of course after using a 4gb you won’t be able to go back to 2gb PoC phones, but that’s another issue altogether :p )
Nope I spoke about free RAM. Most Android UI’s have memory management which prevents the Android system from using all of the RAM, that is free RAM. I have a Meizu MX5 with 3GB of RAM, the system never uses the full 3GB, I always have at least 500 free.
I am defending 2GB for someone who doesn’t use a lot of apps, something you consistently ignore in my argument. For someone who doesn’t use a lot of apps, 2GB is plenty of RAM.
Those 500 MB are used from App’s processes. So they’re not truly free… They’re there due to RAM management, allowing some “Free” Ram for Apps’ routines to use.
Even if you don’t use a lot of apps you’re still going to use the full 2GB of RAM, like I said it’s impossible not to. You have to literally use 2 apps and and have no sync activities to *actually* not use the full of 2GB. Android is RAM bottlenecked for all use and it will continue being so at least until we reach the 6GB-8GB mark on phones.
PS> adding this as a separate note.
what about qualcomm for comparison? you ask…
generally speaking you can find a similar lineup from Qualcomm but with double the GPU, where for example the snapdragon 808 lines up almost perfectly with the Helio P10 for the cpu performance, but the gpu is twice as strong leading to antutu scores that are about 103% of the best Helio X10 phones.
if you never, ever, want to see even the slightest delay in system animations, etc, the gpu becomes important. You probably want at least double the CPU perf (~900 single| 4000 multi), and a GPU subscore in antutu of at least ~13000. This limits you to the X20’s just now coming out, although the CPU there is basically overkill. From Qualcomm, you’d also have to go all the way, to an 810 or 820 — the 808 and 650 have fine single core perf and GPU, but are anemic in multi-core performance (used for things like video processing). Even with the 810, you have to be careful, the lower performing phones with this chip still fail to meet the perf specs we laid out.
Antutu scores are your first mistake, they give you nothing but an arbitrary numbers to compare to other arbitrary numbers and with each version of Antutu the testing metrics completely changes. In actual real world performance the Helios X10 and SD808 are near identical chips in just about every category.
is p10 better than x10 ?
I think — it depends on several factors .. it basically always is the worse performer, but by a tiny amount except one measure. It is weaker mostly in the same way that Qualcomm chips compare as weakest to Mediatek chips in general — the multi core power. That’s not the most important metric.
The P10 phones can be cheaper than X10 phones, but not a lot: many companies are putting it into new phones with lots of new tech like fast charging, finger print scanners, or NFC. In that way the X10s .. which are all older, can reach the same market segment.
But a highly clocked, good performing design with an X10 will outshine the P10… again mostly in multi core scores.
Basically, the P10 is better because you get a little worse performance and a lot more modern peripherals.
If you are trying to skimp on those “unnecessaries”, or if you need the more powerful multi-core score (heavy user who knows they will use 4gb ram), than the X10 is better with the caveat that it will still cost as much as the P10 in a fairly nice phone like the Ele P9000
hmmm … sooo , basically P10 phones will be costlier than x10 phones for the time to come ?
i was planning on shortlisting p10 phones … but now will have to watch the market closely
thank you so much for your message, I saved it as a personal note ☺
now I’m curious about which one has much power consumption (p10 vs x10)
….
Looking at the title I initially thought it was going to be a joke…
But then it kinda is isn’t it…
Yea I was going to say One has X and the other doesn’t lol. But looking at these phones there is very little of interest here. If the Rome was a P10 phone with a better camera it would be much more attractive.
And the desing imo isn’t a turn off either…
Umi rome is another rubbish by umi.
The heat of the phone can fry potatoes.
See complaints > http://community.umidigi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=38&filter=typeid&typeid=137
Too sad we bought 5 pcs. Waste if money.
It’s not AMOLED
According to UMi’s website it is…..
http://www.umidigi.com/page-umi_rome.html
it is amoled but not samsung standard, lol once people hear amoled they assume that all amoleds are made equally.. spoiled spoiled consumers
take a look at these two things:
http://www.panelook.com/E555HBM2_EDO_5.5_OLED_overview_25401.html
It’s worse than SGS1’s screen.
Hell, it’s even worse than a decent quality IPS screen.
According to UMi the battery is 2500mah, so what?
It is AMOLED……
…kind of
It might not a good AMOLED, but it’s still an AMOLED nonetheless.
You get what you pay for.
If this is AMOLED theb why can you see white light leaks from the edges?
Also, if you display a completely black picture, and then turn off the screen, there shouldn’t be any difference (just like on Samsung phones). Here there clearly is, and the blacks look similar to IPS screens.
stop using samsung as an example, the quality is not on par are you hard of hearing/reading.. lol , you are specultating i have put up hard facts on the model for the screen
I don’t have the phone and haven’t seen any images of what you are talking about so I can only go by the companies actually specs. Do you have images?
Or maybe you’re a slow brained person who is easily influenced by marketing lies.
No matter what is the quality of the screen, a real AMOLED (Samsung or not) shouldn’t have a backlight panel
They should try something like ‘Rome X gets 5% more customer support than normal Rome”.
I wish someone would do a write up comparing the different Mediatek SoCs, so people know what to expect.
What I know is: (all antutu scores are v6)
* the MT6753 1.3Ghz tends to score about 620|2850 in gb3 (about on par with a snapdragon 801) and 37k in antutu
* the MT6752 is better, clocked at 1.5-1.7Ghz and scores roughly 45k (40k at 1.5Ghz, about 44k at 1.7Ghz) and 720|3850 in gb3. this was their flagship before the X10.
* the Helio P10 (MT6755) 2Ghz scores around 870|3350 in gb3 and is rumored to score about 48k in antutu.
* the Helio X10 (MT6795) gets 880|4500 in gb3 and between 48k in antutu. (and you thought the P10 antutu v6 score was low)
* the X10 Turbo (MTK 6795T) pushes the gb3 scores to 930|5000, w/ ~51-53k in antutu
* the Helio X20 (MT6797) is expected to score between 1830|5900 and 2100|7050 in gb3, with antutu v6 scores of around 83-89k ~ these might be regular and turbo variants in the future.
from personal experience, I know single core GB3 scores in the range of 450 start to feel sluggish with lollipop. multicore scores below 2k do too. All phones based on any of those above are going to perform at least okay. for gaming and multitasking, you probably want 3GB of ram in 2016. if you don’t want to have to buy a new phone next year, want to watch vp9 or h.265 video, or not miss out on newer apps next year, you probably want Helio P10 or better.
Yeah the amount of RAM is far more important at this point. I keep reminding people whenever I find the chance. For example I think it was a great mistake from Xiaomi to equip Redmi Note with only 2Gigs, killed its longevity…
PS> adding this as a separate note.
what about qualcomm for comparison? you ask…
generally speaking you can find a similar lineup from Qualcomm but with double the GPU, where for example the snapdragon 808 lines up almost perfectly with the Helio P10 for the cpu performance, but the gpu is twice as strong leading to antutu scores that are about 103% of the best Helio X10 phones.
if you never, ever, want to see even the slightest delay in system animations, etc, the gpu becomes important. You probably want about double the CPU perf (~900 single| 4000 multi), and a GPU subscore in antutu of at least ~13000. This limits you to the X20’s just now coming out, although the CPU there is basically overkill. From Qualcomm, you’d also have to go all the way, to an 810 or 820 — the 808 and 650 have fine single core perf and GPU, but are anemic in multi-core performance (used for things like video processing). Even with the 810, you have to be careful, the lower performing phones with this chip still fail to meet the perf specs we laid out.
Antutu scores are your first mistake, they give you nothing but an arbitrary numbers to compare to other arbitrary numbers and with each version of Antutu the testing metrics completely changes. In actual real world performance the Helios X10 and SD808 are near identical chips in just about every category.
Yes and no. It really depends on the end user. Some people will never need more than 2GB of RAM, others will. For some GPU is more important than anything because they play a lot of games. For others camera is most important (like me). If I had a choice between a 2GB phone with an amazing camera or a 4GB phone with an average camera I would trade the memory in a heartbeat.
is p10 better than x10 ?
I think — it depends on several factors .. it basically always is the worse performer, but by a tiny amount except one measure. It is weaker mostly in the same way that Qualcomm chips compare as weakest to Mediatek chips in general — the multi core power. That’s not the most important metric.
The P10 phones can be cheaper than X10 phones, but not a lot: many companies are putting it into new phones with lots of new tech like fast charging, finger print scanners, or NFC. In that way the X10s .. which are all older, can reach the same market segment.
But a highly clocked, good performing design with an X10 will outshine the P10… again mostly in multi core scores.
Basically, the P10 is better because you get a little worse performance and a lot more modern peripherals.
If you are trying to skimp on those “unnecessaries”, or if you need the more powerful multi-core score (heavy user who knows they will use 4gb ram), than the X10 is better with the caveat that it will still cost as much as the P10 in a fairly nice phone like the Ele P9000
hmmm … sooo , basically P10 phones will be costlier than x10 phones for the time to come ?
i was planning on shortlisting p10 phones … but now will have to watch the market closely
You always need more than 2GB of RAM whether you feel it or not. You’ll simply experience it as a slower phone (more reloads). If you mean “OK, but it doesn’t matter to me, the phone is snappy enough as it is”, then we’re in agreement but I didn’t say anything different.
“Performance wise RAM amount is the most important spec” (that’s all I said really).
Respectively, Gaming Wise is GPU (obviously)
And if you like taking photos 3 things matter, SoC abilities for post-processing, the OS’s implementation of it and (of course) the physical hardware (the camera).
Basically that’s why it’s so hard to find good cameras in low-end, it can only be done by companies that care even about the slightest thing.
You may personally always need more than 2GB of RAM, but that is not the case of everyone. It depends largely on what you do with your phone, what apps you use, your UI that your running etc. For some people 2GB is more than they will ever need or use, more won’t make a difference. RAM that isn’t being used offers no performance advantage.
As for cameras there a good cameras at the low end and terrible ones. There are good cameras at the high end and terrible ones. The difference is often in two things: the software and the optics. Most SoC’s today can handle post-processing without any difficulties and most phones use good sensors from Sony, Samsung, OVI and Toshiba. The problem is many of them never optimize the camera and many use cheap lenses.
There are SoCs still on the low end that can’t handle the post processing due to the extremely weak GPU (mt6580 comes to mind).
Again, you confuse Linux with Windows, there is no such thing as unused RAM in Linux kernel. All Ram is used at all times, that’s why after a day or so of use you’re going to see your ram consumption at 80%+ even if you made light use. Ram has multiple uses, one is temporary storage for app functions at the time that it is being used, but another is being used as a ramdisk. If your phone has an aggressive ram management (like Samsung devices do), then you’d see more “free” ram than in the rest of the phones. That’s generally a bad thing and one of the reasons that Samsung phones feel slower than what their hardware suggests… Unused ram is useless ram.
Again no one mentioned Windows except you. All RAM is not used at all times in Android. Android has what is called minfree settings that prevents itself from using all the RAM available. Samsung Phones feel slower because of their incredibly bloated UI that is filled with crapware that hogs resources. Samsung is the worst example you could use.
“Free RAM” is fantasy, you only think such a thing exists because Microsoft spoilt people’s understanding of how/what RAM works/is. (hence why I referred to Microsoft)
RAM is more like the CPU than normal storage. You can’t say I don’t use 100% of my CPU so I only need it to max at 50%. Some processes always do, even if it’s for a split second, it’s inevitable.
I don’t know why is that hard for you to understand though. Just because your phone is weak doesn’t mean that how computers work would change. Yeah, you have a slower phone. So what? It’s the compromise you bought so that to have other things like better camera and/or GPU. Others care for neither so I advice them to *always* buy more ram.
What you call as minfree settings (BTW) is to what I referred as “RAM management”. Same concept, just how Android names it, due to that you’ll never see your ram being 100%, but it’s actually 100% used, in fact that’s exactly what minfree’s point is. Every process needs some “free” RAM at all times, if all was used for caching it would be impossible for an app to compute. Hence why I told you that RAM’s point is both to assist to computation (routines’ tables, calculations) *and* cache apps.
In Windows things are different. Caching is used only sparingly and RAM is mostly used for computation processes. So if RAM starts getting low instead of the “RAM management” mechanism that Linux Kernel employs, it uses a pagefile.
Also one of the reasons that Samsung phones are slower is/are the constant reloads of data (the CPU has to go through main storage to restore data to the screen), that’s probably one of the greatest reasons of Samsung’s slowness. Inefficient coding is only secondary in the long run (you wouldn’t have to constantly call inefficient code if its results were already stored on ram, or -at least- you would do less of that)…
thank you so much for your message, I saved it as a personal note ☺
now I’m curious about which one has much power consumption (p10 vs x10)
Except I don’t have a weak phone at all nice try. Again you bring up Windows which NO ONE was talking about. Windows had ZERO to do with this conversation but yet you keep mentioning it.
You spoke about free ram. Free ram only exists in Windows. So you spoke about Windows…
BTW I don’t know what phone you own, but it has to be weak for you you to defend 2GB phones so much. BTW weak is a relative term, it’s weaker than a 4gb phone, but not in a way that would affect you sense of controlling it (of course after using a 4gb you won’t be able to go back to 2gb PoC phones, but that’s another issue altogether :p )
Nope I spoke about free RAM. Most Android UI’s have memory management which prevents the Android system from using all of the RAM, that is free RAM. I have a Meizu MX5 with 3GB of RAM, the system never uses the full 3GB, I always have at least 500 free.
I am defending 2GB for someone who doesn’t use a lot of apps, something you consistently ignore in my argument. For someone who doesn’t use a lot of apps, 2GB is plenty of RAM.
Those 500 MB are used from App’s processes. So they’re not truly free… They’re there due to RAM management, allowing some “Free” Ram for Apps’ routines to use.
Even if you don’t use a lot of apps you’re still going to use the full 2GB of RAM, like I said it’s impossible not to. You have to literally use 2 apps and and have no sync activities to *actually* not use the full of 2GB. Android is RAM bottlenecked for all use and it will continue being so at least until we reach the 6GB-8GB mark on phones.
Umi rome is another rubbish by umi.
The heat of the phone can fry potatoes.
See complaints > http://community.umidigi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=38&filter=typeid&typeid=137
Too sad we bought 5 pcs. Waste of money.
Never expect with a low price, buy a high-quality phone, which is unrealistic, businesses will not give you really see it the product side, Umi deceive a lot of people, especially in Rome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpOO1S5yNM
Same crap as Ulefone.
Ulefone is better.
You can buy some high quality very good low priced devices. Don’t focus on price, focus on brand.
He is a Ulefone employee, he’s not allowed to mention anything good about a different brand, because he will be fired.
Never expect with a low price, buy a high-quality phone, which is unrealistic, businesses will not give you really see it the product side, Umi deceive a lot of people, especially in Rome.https:/
Same crap as Ulefone.
Ulefone is better.
You can buy some high quality very good low priced devices. Don’t focus on price, focus on brand.
He is a Ulefone employee, he’s not allowed to mention anything good about a different brand, because he will be fired.
they are BOTH shit …
they are BOTH shit …
Hello I cracked umi rome screen, can ı fix it by replacing Rome x screen? will that work?
Hello I cracked umi rome screen, can ı fix it by replacing Rome x screen? will that work?
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