Vivo has announced a couple new phones in India ahead of the IPL (Indian Premier League), where the brand happens to be the title sponsor. The devices — the Vivo V3 and the V3 Max fall in the 18,000-24,000 INR range.
Let’s take a look at the spec sheets of both these devices for once.
The Vivo V3 is the lesser powered of the lot. It comes with the same Snapdragon 616 SoC that we see on the OPPO F1 Plus. Along with that, the V3 has a 5-inch 1280 x 720p display, 3GB of RAM, 32GB on-board storage, a 13 mega-pixel PDAF-enabled rear camera, and an 8 mega-pixel front facing camera.
The V3 goes for 17,980 INR ($271), and features a fingerprint sensor and a 2550mAh battery.
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On the other hand, the V3 Max is powered by the more powerful Snapdragon 652 processor. True to its name, the V3 Max has a larger (5.5-inch) screen and a higher (1920 x 1080p) resolution than the V3. The phone also has 4GB of RAM, 32GB on-board storage, a 13 mega-pixel rear camera and an 8 mega-pixel front facing camera… all of which is powered by a 3000mAh battery.
Like the V3, the V3 Max too features a fingerprint sensor. The phone gets a 23,980 INR ($362) price tag, that brings it perilously close to that of the Xiaomi Mi 5.
Who would buy a V3 Max at INR 24K in India with Snapdragon 652, when you can get a flagship device like Xiaomi Mi 5 at INR 25K with Snapdragon 820.
I was thinking pretty much the same
i would buy rather vivo.. because i fu read review here mi5 is just crap.. mega huge black borders around the screen plasticky gets too hot bad quality sound and video recording
vivo is higher class
How does glass feel plasticky?
when is an adhesive applied on and sticked on something THEN sometimes u wondering it is plexiglass..
It is Gorilla Glass IV. Only an idiot could confuse that with plastic.
omg really if is gorila ?? strong like gorila and OMG it is number 4 wooow that is like pancier u naive little boy
but btw i didn’t mean screen is plastic but back of the phone.. Read properly
The back of the phone is Gorilla Glass retard.
u dement I don’t believe that sht like u stupid
Given the choice I would buy the Vivo and I am a Xiaomi fanboy. The Mi5 didn’t impress me at all. Price isn’t everything especially for a Vivo customer.
Have you ever used a LeEco device? Bcoz if you had you never would have told Vivo provides better quality for its price. I own a LeEco Le1s and Vivo V1Max. Even if Le1s is half as expensive as V1max, after using Le1s for a month I felt it had better built quality and had superior performance in every department bar none over V1Max. Say the Le1s will simply blow the V1Max out of the window in gaming performance and display quality.
As a smartphone manufacturer you can always provide good quality at a hefty asking price and then gain fat profit margins. It is only when you can provide the same quality at half the asking price which LeEco did will it be considered as an achievement. I love my Le1s and I will again say LeEco did a a fantastic job which compelled me to sell my V1Max.
People will pay big amounts of cash to get a Mercedes-Benz as it is a revered mark and also because of its constant commitment to customers. With zero android version upgrade policy followed by Vivo meaning zero commitment to their customers I don’t know how you compared Vivo with Mercedes-Benz. Better buy a Ferrari which is Samsung or LG in smartphone world.
LeEco are good devices but they don’t even come close to Vivo. And Samsung and LG are far from Ferrari, they would be like Ford and Toyota lol.
If Samsung the maker of S7 Edge is Ford and LG the creator of G5 is Toyota, then Vivo is definitely Oldsmobile. Btw Oldsmobile cannot thrive without Ford as it gets the parts like displays and RAMs from them. Man this is the biggest joke I have read. You made my day!!!
Vivo would be more like Volvo or Audi, they make products for a specific market segment of clients. Those that want a premium device and are willing to pay for it. Samsung and LG make products that appeal to the masses, like Ford and Toyota do.
What is your definition of a premim device? Anything which can be designed and built at $100 and sold at $300 with hyped marketing? Or the same product that was sold at $150? Will you call the $300 device a premium product and $150 device a mediocre?
You talk about Audi but do you know it is owned by Volkswagen who makes cars for masses and provides required tech to Audi? Do you know that it was Volkswagen who bought Buggati and created the fastest and most expensive car in the world Buggati Veyron? Dont underestimate the power of Samsung & LG and it will take Vivo ages with a minute R&D team of 2000 who do not even have resources in that team to provide any android version upgrades.
Yup and Ferrari is owned by Fiat. What is your point? A lot of premium brands are owned by larger corporations. You keep mentioning Android upgrades, both Vivo phones I had were upgraded and received several updates.
I believe you understand the difference between Android version upgrades and Android updates.
I believe I know more about Android and more about Chinese phones than you realize. And according to Vivo the V1 Max have dedicated audio chips. So either you are lying or they are.
https://www.vivoglobal.com/product/v1max/
I never said that V1Max have no audio chips.
Comparing Vivo to Mercedes isn’t accurate in here. Mercedes always provides extra functionality and working culture (comparing to KIA), while VIVOs here are midrangers, that provide only finishing quality, but will not provide any extra functionalities (comparing to Mi5) and there still is a big chance that Vivo will disappoint in software department …
I can tell you never actually owned a Vivo. The software is very good to excellent and they offer a level of refinement not found on many other phones (similar to Mercedes). The audio in a Vivo phone is better than any other brand thanks to dedicated audio chips. The cameras are always excellent thanks to great optimization. The build quality is excellent and the customer service is one of the best I have ever used in this industry. If you ever own a Vivo you will understand why people pay a premium for their devices.
I don’t find anything special with Vivo’s software (Funtouch OS) other than being a shameless copy of iOS software found in Apple iPhone’s. It’s feels just the same like Apple to operate with different color schemes. So 0% innovation & 100% copy. By coping Apple they have immediately achieved some level of refinement as found in iPhone. And then with zero android version upgrades lets call their customer after sales service as pathetic.
Vivo does not ship all their phones with audio chips. Only the the flagship & mid-range models gets them. The mid-range models have low quality audio chips while at the same price you can have a much better product if audio is your priority. Lenovo Vibe X3 flagship sells way less than Vivo V3Max mid ranger while offering way higher audio performance. If you have some knowledge of how audio works in smartphones you will know what I meant.
I used to own three Vivo phones, one gifted V1Max which i sold for pathetic performance and below par screen quality, V1 which was gifted to my sister as she gave up using due to serious problem in software (when ever the contacts was opened the phone hanged, and when taken to service center they said the software had problems). Only the X5Max deserves some credit as it was their masterpiece for audio performance only at a sky high price.
The V1 and V1 Max were both Vivo’s entry level phones for the Indian market (Just like Mercedes has some crap entry level cars for certain countries). I never used them so I can’t comment. The international models however have all been excellent. The Xshot is still to this day one of the best camera phones ever made.
So now you admit Vivo makes some crap phones. Secondly Vivo V1 & V1Max is in no way entry level phones as internationally they are known as Y35 & Y37 respectively. And if you say they are crap then I must admit Vivo makes some expensive crap phones with didly software optimizations and zero android version upgrades.
I never said every Vivo phone was amazing, I said they are a good brand with good software and good hardware which they are. Every brand has their good and bad phones.
Yup in the same way all Lenovo, Xiaomi and LeEco phones are not amazing, they are just good brands with good software and good hardware which they are but at half the price of Vivo which are an achivement by itself. That was my point.
And my point is most Vivo’s offer a level of sophistication above most Lenovo, Xiaomi and LeEco phones. The Xshot at the time offered a camera experience none of those brands offered. Vivo’s higher end models offer an audio experience none of those brands offer. For me Vivo and millions of other people Vivo is well worth the money, for you they are not.
Who said that? I own the best audio centric vivo flagship phone they have ever made availabe globally x5Max. The lenovo Vibe X3 flagship which my freind owns is at the same level in terms of audiophile nirnana with identical dacs at much less cost.
I said that, you missed the word “most”. “And my point is MOST Vivos offer a level of sophistication above MOST Lenovo…”
Lenovo has one audio centric phone, Vivo has multiples of them. And the one Lenovo has is big, bulky, ugly and heavy, for the extra money of the Vivo you get much a slimmer phone and much better software IMO. I would take Funtouch over Vibe UI any day. You personally may disagree. For you price is very important, for me it isn’t. I prefer much thinner phones with what I consider good software and good looks.
What is the meaning of the word “sophistication” in your dictionary? For smartphones is it anything which is slim, provides below par hardware specs for its price, having to detune the clock speeds of almost all chipsets in their models as for pursuing thinness they have to let go of battery size, comes with a software which is a shameless copy of another famous software, is so poorly optimized in ram management that it always ends up at the bottom of the test scores like AnTuTu and have one of the worst gaming performance?
It is true Lenovo have only one audio centric phone the Vibe X3, but it is so good it is on par with the best Vivo has to offer globally the X5Max. And even with this amount of audio performance it is way cheaper than the mid-range Vivo V3Max offering which frankly comes with a crappy low-cost audio chip. Why would somebody choose from multiple less audio performance oriented Vivo’s when they get much better audio quality in Vibe X3 for the same price?
The phone you are calling big, bulky, ugly and heavy is actually designed by Motorola as Lenovo owns them. Contrary to your belief I will say the Vibe X3 is the best built Lenovo I have come across and have equivalent build quality of the X5Max. Ugly? I wonder if you have ever seen the phone in flesh because it is beautifully designed by Motorola with practicality in mind and great look to offer. Bulky? It has a big heart (Snapdragon 808) and needs a big battery and is thus heavy but outlast any Vivo phone I have owned be it X5max or V1 or V1Max on a single charge.
Have you seen the new Vibe software which comes with Vibe X3 or K4 Note? Trimmed from all the excessive Chinese bloatware by Motorola, it is super fast with much better optimization than Vivo Funtouch OS can offer. Run a heavy game and you will understand. I will say Vibe X3 is an android phone and behaves to give you the authentic android feel, while Vivo phones are android phones which tries to mimic Apple iOS and ends up somewhere in between. But then to each his own.
As you implied, high price of a smartphone is not important to you as long it looks good and is slim, you are a perfect fit for being a Vivo fan. But to most of us we love to get the maximum return of our hard earned money and find it a much better and safer bet to go for a Xiaomi, LeEco or a Lenovo as they provide way superior performance for the same price of a Vivo with equivalent built quality to boot.
My only gripe is that you stared the conversation saying you are as Xiaomi fanboy and ended up as a Vivo fanboy and Xiaomi hater.
Haha that is the first time I have been called a Xiaomi hater. You must be new around here and don’t know who I am. Ask some of the other people around here if I am a Xiaomi hater. Hahaha that is a good one.
The Vibe X3 is big and bulky and doesn’t matter who designed it, it’s still a monstrosity at 9.3mm and 176g.
I got your point, you are an unstoppable force to reckon with in this website and have more knowledge about Chinese phones and android (as you self implied in your other post) than any regular Joe like me. But I least care about it and I believe in my views as posted. After all every body has the right to express his/her views, and frankly I don’t care who you are.
If you knew who I was you wouldn’t say I hate Xiaomi, that’s just hilarious. I am still laughing about that one.
Great insight & I wholeheartedly agree with you. Vivo touts them as the maker of hifi centric phones and then provides a default music player which not even supports flac audio files. I am speaking of my overpriced x5pro piece of shit which not even use to last a day of medium usage. Currently I own a G4 which is a superb piece of kit and 10x better.
I differ from your views balco. I have owned only one of their model the x5pro which was their flagship last year. The OS had many niggling issues and the default player had no support for flac audio file playback despite being a hifi phone. The phone will become very hot after 15 to 20 mins of gaming and battery life was mediocre at best. I then got hold of a lg g4 and fortunately no such issues. Great batters life and no excessive heating.
You are right, Vivo always makes overpriced devices that are not even equal to Xiaomi at half the price.
Who would buy a Vivo V3 Max with Snapdragon 652 at INR 24K in India, when you get a flagship device like Xiaomi Mi 5 with Snapdragon 820 at INR 25K. Who would buy a Vivo V3 with Snapdragon 616 at INR 18K in India, when you get a superb device like Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 with Snapdragon 650 at just INR 10K.
Vivo is completely out of their mind and again churned out a pair of ordinary phones at an extraordinary price. And be certain these phones will never ever receive any future android version upgrades as the rest of Vivo phones.
I was thinking pretty much the same
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Given the choice I would buy the Vivo and I am a Xiaomi fanboy. The Mi5 didn’t impress me at all. Price isn’t everything especially for a Vivo customer. Vivo is a premium brand and you get a lot for the money you pay. Some people are willing to pay for the quality of a Vivo even if the specs/price don’t match up with other phones. Just like people will still pay for a Mercedes when they can get a Kia with the same equipment for half the price.
Have you ever used a LeEco device? Bcoz if you had you never would have told Vivo provides better quality for its price. I own a LeEco Le1s and Vivo V1Max. Even if Le1s is half as expensive as V1max, after using Le1s for a month I felt it had better built quality and had superior performance in every department bar none over V1Max. Say the Le1s will simply blow the V1Max out of the window in gaming performance and display quality.
As a smartphone manufacturer you can always provide good quality at a hefty asking price and then gain fat profit margins. It is only when you can provide the same quality at half the asking price which LeEco did will it be considered as an achievement. I love my Le1s and I will again say LeEco did a a fantastic job which compelled me to sell my V1Max.
People will pay big amounts of cash to get a Mercedes-Benz as it is a revered mark and also because of its constant commitment to customers. With zero android version upgrade policy followed by Vivo meaning zero commitment to their customers I don’t know how you compared Vivo with Mercedes-Benz. Better buy a Ferrari which is Samsung or LG in smartphone world.
You are right, Vivo always makes overpriced devices that are not even equal to Xiaomi at half the price.
How does glass feel plasticky?
Comparing Vivo to Mercedes isn’t accurate in here. Mercedes always provides extra functionality, comfort and working culture (comparing to KIA), while VIVOs here are midrangers that provide only finishing quality, but will not provide any extra functionalities (comparing to Mi5) and there still is a big chance that Vivo will disappoint in software department …
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It is Gorilla Glass IV. Only an idiot could confuse that with plastic.
I can tell you never actually owned a Vivo. The software is very good to excellent and they offer a level of refinement not found on many other phones (similar to Mercedes). The audio in a Vivo phone is better than any other brand thanks to dedicated audio chips. The cameras are always excellent thanks to great optimization. The build quality is excellent and the customer service is one of the best I have ever used in this industry. If you ever own a Vivo you will understand why people pay a premium for their devices.
LeEco are good devices but they don’t even come close to Vivo. And Samsung and LG are far from Ferrari, they would be like Ford and Toyota lol.
If Samsung the maker of S7 Edge is Ford and LG the creator of G5 is Toyota, then Vivo is definitely Oldsmobile. Btw Oldsmobile cannot thrive without Ford as it gets the parts like displays and RAMs from them. Man this is the biggest joke I have read. You made my day!!!
I don’t find anything special with Vivo’s software (Funtouch OS) other than being a shameless copy of iOS software found in Apple iPhone’s. It’s feels just the same like Apple to operate with different color schemes. So 0% innovation & 100% copy. By coping Apple they have immediately achieved some level of refinement as found in iPhone. And then with zero android version upgrades lets call their customer after sales service as pathetic.
Vivo does not ship all their phones with audio chips. Only the the flagship & mid-range models gets them. The mid-range models have low quality audio chips while at the same price you can have a much better product if audio is your priority. Lenovo Vibe X3 flagship sells way less than Vivo V3Max mid ranger while offering way higher audio performance. If you have some knowledge of how audio works in smartphones you will know what I meant.
I used to own three Vivo phones, one gifted V1Max which i sold for pathetic performance and below par screen quality, V1 which was gifted to my sister as she gave up using due to serious problem in software (when ever the contacts was opened the phone hanged, and when taken to service center they said the software had problems). Only the X5Max deserves some credit as it was their masterpiece for audio performance only at a sky high price.
The V1 and V1 Max were both Vivo’s entry level phones for the Indian market (Just like Mercedes has some crap entry level cars for certain countries). I never used them so I can’t comment. The international models however have all been excellent. The Xshot is still to this day one of the best camera phones ever made.
Vivo would be more like Volvo or Audi, they make products for a specific market segment of clients. Those that want a premium device and are willing to pay for it. Samsung and LG make products that appeal to the masses, like Ford and Toyota do.
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What is your definition of a premim device? Anything which can be designed and built at $100 and sold at $300 with hyped marketing? Or the same product that was sold at $150? Will you call the $300 device a premium product and $150 device a mediocre?
You talk about Audi but do you know it is owned by Volkswagen who makes cars for masses and provides required tech to Audi? Do you know that it was Volkswagen who bought Buggati and created the fastest and most expensive car in the world Buggati Veyron? Dont underestimate the power of Samsung & LG and it will take Vivo ages with a minute R&D team of 2000 who do not even have resources in that team to provide any android version upgrades.
So now you admit Vivo makes some crap phones. Secondly Vivo V1 & V1Max is in no way entry level phones as internationally they are known as Y35 & Y37 respectively. And if you say they are crap then I must admit Vivo makes some expensive crap phones with didly software optimizations and zero android version upgrades.
I never said every Vivo phone was amazing, I said they are a good brand with good software and good hardware which they are. Every brand has their good and bad phones.
Yup and Ferrari is owned by Fiat. What is your point? A lot of premium brands are owned by larger corporations. You keep mentioning Android upgrades, both Vivo phones I had were upgraded and received several updates.
I believe you understand the difference between Android version upgrades and Android updates.
I believe I know more about Android and more about Chinese phones than you realize. And according to Vivo the V1 Max have dedicated audio chips. So either you are lying or they are.
https://www.vivoglobal.com/product/v1max/
Yup in the same way all Lenovo, Xiaomi and LeEco phones are not amazing, they are just good brands with good software and good hardware which they are but at half the price of Vivo which are an achivement by itself. That was my point.
I never said that V1Max have no audio chips. It is V1 that does not come with any audio chips.
And my point is most Vivo’s offer a level of sophistication above most Lenovo, Xiaomi and LeEco phones. The Xshot at the time offered a camera experience none of those brands offered. Vivo’s higher end models offer an audio experience none of those brands offer. For me Vivo and millions of other people Vivo is well worth the money, for you they are not.
Who said that? I own the best audio centric vivo flagship phone they have ever made availabe globally x5Max. The lenovo Vibe X3 flagship which my freind owns is at the same level in terms of audiophile nirnana with identical dacs at much less cost.
I said that, you missed the word “most”. “And my point is MOST Vivos offer a level of sophistication above MOST Lenovo…”
Lenovo has one audio centric phone, Vivo has multiples of them. And the one Lenovo has is big, bulky, ugly and heavy, for the extra money of the Vivo you get much a slimmer phone and much better software IMO. I would take Funtouch over Vibe UI any day. You personally may disagree. For you price is very important, for me it isn’t. I prefer much thinner phones with what I consider good software and good looks.
The back of the phone is Gorilla Glass retard.
What is the meaning of the word “sophistication” in your dictionary? For smartphones is it anything which is slim, provides below par hardware specs for its price, having to detune the clock speeds of almost all chipsets in their models as for pursuing thinness they have to let go of battery size, comes with a software which is a shameless copy of another famous software, is so poorly optimized in ram management that it always ends up at the bottom of the test scores like AnTuTu and have one of the worst gaming performance?
It is true Lenovo have only one audio centric phone the Vibe X3, but it is so good it is on par with the best Vivo has to offer globally the X5Max. And even with this amount of audio performance it is way cheaper than the mid-range Vivo V3Max offering which frankly comes with a crappy low-cost audio chip. Why would somebody choose from multiple less audio performance oriented Vivo’s when they get much better audio quality in Vibe X3 for the same price?
The phone you are calling big, bulky, ugly and heavy is actually designed by Motorola as Lenovo owns them. Contrary to your belief I will say the Vibe X3 is the best built Lenovo I have come across and have equivalent build quality of the X5Max. Ugly? I wonder if you have ever seen the phone in flesh because it is beautifully designed by Motorola with practicality in mind and great look to offer. Bulky? It has a big heart (Snapdragon 808) and needs a big battery and is thus heavy but outlast any Vivo phone I have owned be it X5max or V1 or V1Max on a single charge.
Have you seen the new Vibe software which comes with Vibe X3 or K4 Note? Trimmed from all the excessive Chinese bloatware by Motorola, it is super fast with much better optimization than Vivo Funtouch OS can offer. Run a heavy game and you will understand. I will say Vibe X3 is an android phone which provides the authentic android feel, while Vivo phones are android phones which tries to mimic Apple iOS and ends up somewhere in between. But then to each his own.
As you implied, high price of a smartphone is not important to you as long it looks good and is slim, then I would say you are perfectly fit to be a Vivo fan. But to most of us we love to get the maximum return of our hard earned money and find it a much better and safer bet to go for a Xiaomi, LeEco or a Lenovo as they provide similar performance for half the price of a Vivo with equivalent built quality to boot.
My only gripe is you initiated the whole conversation stating yourself as a Xiaomi fanboy and then it turned out you are a Vivo fanboy and a Xiaomi/Lenovo/LeEco hater.
Haha that is the first time I have been called a Xiaomi hater. You must be new around here and don’t know who I am. Ask some of the other people around here if I am a Xiaomi hater. Hahaha that is a good one.
The Vibe X3 is big and bulky and doesn’t matter who designed it, it’s still a monstrosity at 9.3mm and 176g.
I got your point, you are an unstoppable force to reckon with in this website and have more knowledge about Chinese phones and android (as you self implied in your other post) than any regular Joe like me. But I least care about it and I believe in my views as posted. After all every body has the right to express his/her views, and frankly I don’t care who you are.
If you knew who I was you wouldn’t say I hate Xiaomi, that’s just hilarious. I am still laughing about that one.
Great insight & I wholeheartedly agree with you. Vivo touts them as the maker of hifi centric phones and then provides a default music player which not even supports flac audio files. I am speaking of my overpriced x5pro piece of shit which not even use to last a day of medium usage. Currently I own a G4 which is a superb piece of kit and 10x better.
I differ from your views balco. I own one of their models x5pro which was their top model last year. The OS had many niggling issues and the default player had no support for flac audio file playback despite being a hifi phone. The phone will become very hot after 15 to 20 mins of gaming and you can barely hold. Battery life was poor at best. After few weeks of usage few dead pixels arrived on the display and so I gave it to to the CS. They took ages to fix it and being disgusted I got hold of a lg g4 and fortunately no such issues. Great batters life, much better camera and no excessive heating even after an hour of gaming.
I do not know where you live, may be in China but in our country Vivo is just like any other Chinese brands and are not considered among premium brands like apple and samsung or lg. Frankly I would have never bought a vivo if it was not gifted. I will say Chinese phones like qiku q terra are more of a complete phone than x5pro as I have used both. q terra have better quality, more premium feel and better execution.
Vivo should call themselves WhyVo
Vivo should call themselves WhyVo
Just give me a new Xshot!
+1 Balco. Waiting eagerly myself..
Just give me a new Xshot!
+1 Balco. Waiting eagerly myself..
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