Things don’t look that good for Mediatek and we’ve covered this matter extensively during the past few months. The Taiwanese is in for a rough 2017 if we are to make impressions from the shipment numbers during the first quarter of the year.
According to media sources from the country, the company has managed to get only 100 million of shipments during the first 3 months, with some rumors saying that the number could increase to 110-120 million during the second quarter of the year. These numbers seem low – even for the Taiwanese standards- especially if you take into account that Mediatek sold 480 million chipsets last year.
Gizchina News of the week
So who’s to blame for these low figures? According to the same sources, Qualcomm. It looks like most Chinese manufacturers like Meizu, Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo have shifted a portion of their orders from MediaTek to its main competitor and its Snapdragon chipsets. Mediatek has another problem to solve however, and it’s called Helio X30.
We’re talking about their latest flagship chipset, which has yet to be adopted by any big manufacturers thanks to its slow production line and average performance. If these numbers continue to haunt Mediatek then the company is set to lose a large portion of its market share in China and fall perhaps below 40%!
And it will drop more once Meizu releases its own processors.
Providing no open source drivers u deserve it mediatek
And it will drop more once Meizu releases its own processors.
Providing no open source drivers u deserve it mediatek
Because u dont have new processors, nothing new released on 14nm or 10nm, same old crap ineficient and with bad camera processing isp.
No GPS support in any chip, or very poor support.
(EPO files needed, which are very hard to obtain due to servers going down).
Even with EPO files and MobileUncle MTK Tools, acquiring a gps fix takes 1 hour or more, even under ideal conditions (outdoor, good weather).
It’s actually quite amazing how they managed to sell whatever they have so far without GPS support, which is a really basic feature these days.
Next, pathetic GPUs, which means no gaming.
(I’m not talking about Angry Birds and Tetris, I’m talking about N.O.V.A, Asphalt etc.)
Finally, weak processing. 2 apps or more means a stuttery, sluggish experience.
This had to happen to them eventually.
The only way they can now survive is to get phone makers to sell 6797T based phones around the 70 USD mark, with lots of RAM (4GB+), UFS3 storage, 2K displays etc.
For example, a phone maker could use that garbage 6797T in a phone with:
– 2K screen 5.7″ Gorilla Glass 4
– 6 GB Ram
– USB Type C 3.0 backed
– 64 GB UFS3.0 Rom
– Android 7.1.1
– A hi-fi DAC for superb audio
– A 20 MP cam (primary) and a 16 MP cam secondary with OIS
– A 4800 MaH battery with quick charge and wireless charing
and price it at 69.99 USD.
Then MTK can survive maybe.
I must disagree. I had a variety of processors both QUALCOMM and mediatek. No difference at all. Good gps support, smooth game support etc. Yes mediatek has not as good gpus as QUALCOMM but they are ok. For example I had xelio x20, and snap 810 (same antutu score but there was a big difference in 3d) but overall the experience was the same. Other example : I went from mtk 6753 to snap 820 and they seem the same. Maybe there are games that make a difference but think and consider the price difference. I say support mediatek because we will have a situation similar to intel amd….
You can’t even dare to say that between SD820 and MT6753 there is no difference as for performance, not at all :(. I could accept that comparison with an helio x20 but even with that you would notice a huge gap between them in some games.
I prefer Mediatek over Qualcomm because they are way cheaper, but there’s always a reason, as you see. I’m not nearly as demanding as what a SD820 can offer, so that’s why I stick with MTK 🙂
my opinion: in everyday usual activity there is no difference. real example: wake up running , gps immediately lock sattelites, hear music, web surfing, facebook, youtube, random 2d game, of course make some phone calls, watch a movie…. there is no difference. Maybe there is a delay 1 sec in a web site but you cant tell except you have 2 phones to compare. I must say that if a mediatek 6753 phone is well made (nice antennas, descent camera, 2-3 gb rom, nice software, not a strange ui etc ) then it can be compared with a snap 820. But usually when companies use 6753 they usually lower the overall quality. And don’t forget the 6753 was one of the best cpus of mediate
MediaTek GPS lock takes 1 to 2 hours AFTER MobileUncle MTK tools fix with EPO files, updated monthly (which are not available anymore!!!).
So you’re lying. No MediaTek phone locks GPS immediately. On the newest phones (2016-17 SoCs), locks take 20 minutes or more under ideal conditions, where Exynos / QC chips lock in seconds.
Every MTK phone I have used in the last 2 years had locked on in the same amount of time as Qualcomm phones.
So you’re lying. Which isn’t a surprise because you have never liked Mediatek because they don’t score well in Antutu.
MediaTek phones don’t even HAVE gps functionality you stupid troll, they advertise it but it doesn’t exist on the older chips.
On the newer chips it maybe exists but needs EPO files via download from their servers (which are always unavailable).
After EPO files, it takes 1-2 hours.
So stop lying please.
About GPS: meizu mx4, dogee f5, jiayu s3, leeco le 2 pro, elephone s7, infocus m560 xiaomi Redmi note 2 NEVER had GPS issues. But before them jiayu g3 and iocean x7 elite YES i had. All these mdk phones are ok as all Qualcomm i had.
Hard to believe. The app Mobile Uncle MTK tools exists for a reason. It is used to enter engineering mode on MTK devices and download EPO files every week I think, (if you’re lucky and the servers are up).
Don’t believe me? see here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2697236
again you’re stuck in 2013. it’s obsolete now.
Once again they had problems on their older phones, they don’t anymore. Stop lying about things you know nothing about. I use dozens of phones a year, current gen MTK devices have GPS comparable to any other brand.
Someone tell this idiot about MobileUncle MTK tools and its engineering mode.
I remember there was even an article on GizChina on how to get faster lock times on MTK devices by using that tool to download EPO files.
https://www.gizchina.com/2013/07/23/how-to-fix-poor-gps-on-mediatek-phones/
Yeah, there was such an article. It’s 4 years old.
So… welcome to 2013 buddy! ?
Thanks for finding it!
Oh the comments on that article, my my.
And people still buy these crappy MTK devices.
Someone tell this idiot that Gizchina article was from 2013…
https://www.gizchina.com/2013/07/23/how-to-fix-poor-gps-on-mediatek-phones/
Once again you are wrong.
Mediatek hasn’t suffered from GPS isues since around 2014. But nice try from a self admitted Qualcomm fanboy.
My Be touch 2 from 2016 suffers from the same GPS problems any other mtk phone has.
It would place me often on roads which are nearby and the speed is never constant because of all that jumping. It is unusable in cities.
My old windows mobile phones from 10 years ago were 100% accurate with their gps.
That’s because you bought a Ulefone not an MTK phone.
I agree with Balco tho, Most cases if not, all, the problems you get specially from a China phone are not really hardware related. Rather it’s bad software, bad assembly matter. If you get an MTK phone from a named China brand like Xiaomi, Meizu, it’s won’t be the same. The only argument that I have with MTK is the open source and GPU topic
Whu to blame Qualcomm!?
MTK did it alone… By not providing Larnel source, buy not ising Qualcomm’s gift two years ago (when they have fu*k up all, from flagship sd810 SoC, through middle sd615 to solid but not good enough sd 410).
MTK had their chanse… Now Kirin is bigher and Xiaomi’s SoC are bigger problem to Qualcomm… They have forgot MTK, since they just don’t have nothing to offer in any class, that should be considered as alternative to Qualcomm’s this year SoCs.
Well said. They violatw GPL and they deserve to collapse.
Because u dont have new processors, nothing new released on 14nm or 10nm, same old crap ineficient and with bad camera processing isp.
No GPS support in any chip, or very poor support.
(EPO files needed, which are very hard to obtain due to servers going down).
Even with EPO files and MobileUncle MTK Tools, acquiring a gps fix takes 1 hour or more, even under ideal conditions (outdoor, good weather).
It’s actually quite amazing how they managed to sell whatever they have so far without GPS support, which is a really basic feature these days.
Next, pathetic GPUs, which means no gaming.
(I’m not talking about Angry Birds and Tetris, I’m talking about N.O.V.A, Asphalt etc.)
Finally, weak processing. 2 apps or more means a stuttery, sluggish experience.
This had to happen to them eventually.
The only way they can now survive is to get phone makers to sell 6797T based phones around the 70 USD mark, with lots of RAM (4GB+), UFS3 storage, 2K displays etc.
For example, a phone maker could use that garbage 6797T in a phone with:
– 2K screen 5.7″ Gorilla Glass 4
– 6 GB Ram
– USB Type C 3.0 backed
– 64 GB UFS3.0 Rom
– Android 7.1.1
– A hi-fi DAC for superb audio
– A 20 MP cam (primary) and a 16 MP cam secondary with OIS
– A 4800 MaH battery with quick charge and wireless charing
and price it at 69.99 USD.
Then MTK can survive maybe.
I must disagree. I had a variety of processors both QUALCOMM and mediatek. No difference at all. Good gps support, smooth game support etc. Yes mediatek has not as good gpus as QUALCOMM but they are ok. For example I had xelio x20, and snap 810 (same antutu score but there was a big difference in 3d) but overall the experience was the same. Other example : I went from mtk 6753 to snap 820 and they seem the same. Maybe there are games that make a difference but think and consider the price difference. I say support mediatek because we will have a situation similar to intel amd….
You can’t even dare to say that between SD820 and MT6753 there is no difference as for performance, not at all :(. I could accept that comparison with an helio x20 but even with that you would notice a huge gap between them in some games.
I prefer Mediatek over Qualcomm because they are way cheaper, but there’s always a reason, as you see. I’m not nearly as demanding as what a SD820 can offer, so that’s why I stick with MTK 🙂
my opinion: in everyday usual activity there is no difference. real example: wake up running , gps immediately lock sattelites, hear music, web surfing, facebook, youtube, random 2d game, of course make some phone calls, watch a movie…. there is no difference. Maybe there is a delay 1 sec in a web site but you cant tell except you have 2 phones to compare. I must say that if a mediatek 6753 phone is well made (nice antennas, descent camera, 2-3 gb rom, nice software, not a strange ui etc ) then it can be compared with a snap 820. But usually when companies use 6753 they usually lower the overall quality. And don’t forget the 6753 was one of the best cpus of mediate
MediaTek GPS lock takes 1 to 2 hours AFTER MobileUncle MTK tools fix with EPO files, updated monthly (which are not available anymore!!!).
So you’re lying. No MediaTek phone locks GPS immediately. On the newest phones (2016-17 SoCs), locks take 20 minutes or more under ideal conditions, where Exynos / QC chips lock in seconds.
Mediatek hasn’t suffered from GPS isues since around 2014. But nice try from a self admitted Qualcomm fanboy.
Every MTK phone I have used in the last 2 years had locked on in the same amount of time as Qualcomm phones.
So you’re lying. Which isn’t a surprise because you have never liked Mediatek because they don’t score well in Antutu.
From Gizbeats review for the Redmi Pro:
“GPS signal strength on the Redmi Pro is excellent, locking within seconds, and with 5-7 satellites generally staying from mid-30’s to mid-40’s and the other locked satellites in the 20’s.”
It’s okay to hate a certain brand but don’t just make up stuff to try to justify your hatred for them. It makes you look petty and even more like a fanboy.
MediaTek phones don’t even HAVE gps functionality you stupid troll, they advertise it but it doesn’t exist on the older chips.
On the newer chips it maybe exists but needs EPO files via download from their servers (which are always unavailable).
After EPO files, it takes 1-2 hours.
So stop lying please.
Someone tell this idiot about MobileUncle MTK tools and its engineering mode.
I remember there was even an article on GizChina on how to get faster lock times on MTK devices by using that tool to download EPO files.
Yeah, there was such an article. It’s 4 years old.
So… welcome to 2013 buddy! 😁
About GPS: meizu mx4, dogee f5, jiayu s3, leeco le 2 pro, elephone s7, infocus m560 xiaomi Redmi note 2 NEVER had GPS issues. But before them jiayu g3 and iocean x7 elite YES i had. All these mdk phones are ok as all Qualcomm i had.
Hard to believe. The app Mobile Uncle MTK tools exists for a reason. It is used to enter engineering mode on MTK devices and download EPO files every week I think, (if you’re lucky and the servers are up).
Don’t believe me? see here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2697236
Thanks for finding it!
Oh the comments on that article, my my.
And people still buy these crappy MTK devices.
My Be touch 2 from 2016 suffers from the same GPS problems any other mtk phone has.
It would place me often on roads which are nearby and the speed is never constant because of all that jumping. It is unusable in cities.
My old windows mobile phones from 10 years ago were 100% accurate with their gps.
That’s because you bought a Ulefone not an MTK phone.
Someone tell this idiot that Gizchina article was from 2013…
Once again you are wrong.
Once again they had problems on their older phones, they don’t anymore. Stop lying about things you know nothing about. I use dozens of phones a year, current gen MTK devices have GPS comparable to any other brand.
I agree with Balco tho, Most cases if not, all, the problems you get specially from a China phone are not really hardware related. Rather it’s bad software, bad assembly matter. If you get an MTK phone from a named China brand like Xiaomi, Meizu, it’s won’t be the same. The only argument that I have with MTK is the open source and GPU topic
again you’re stuck in 2013. it’s obsolete now.
Why to blame Qualcomm!?
MTK did it alone… By not providing karnel sources, buy not using Qualcomm’s gift two years ago (when they have fu*k up all, from flagship sd810 SoC, through middle sd615 to solid but not good enough sd 410).
MTK had their chanse… Now Kirin and Xiaomi’s (forgot name to that one) SoC are bigger problem to Qualcomm… They have forgot MTK, since they just don’t have nothing to offer in any class, that should be considered as alternative to Qualcomm’s this year SoCs.
Well said. They violatw GPL and they deserve to collapse.
They also haven’t really launched anything new this year which is probably one of the biggest reasons for this drop. Xiaomi launching their own pinecone doesn’t help matters either.
Rehashing the same old crap with minor speed-bumps and terming them as T (Turbo) processors didn’t seem to work.
They also haven’t really launched anything new this year which is probably one of the biggest reasons for this drop. Xiaomi launching their own pinecone doesn’t help matters either.
Rehashing the same old crap with minor speed-bumps and terming them as T (Turbo) processors didn’t seem to work.
They really need to stop with the “number of cores” race… Who needs 10 or 12 cores SOC ? . Just do a powerful 4 or 8 core SOC with nice GPU … 4 A 73 and 4 A 53 and that’s ok .
We dont realy know how the MediaTek Helio X30 are yet. When the production taking off they might be in many phones.
They really need to stop with the “number of cores” race… Who needs 10 or 12 cores SOC ? . Just do a powerful 4 or 8 core SOC with nice GPU … 4 A 73 and 4 A 53 and that’s ok .
We dont realy know how the MediaTek Helio X30 are yet. When the production taking off they might be in many phones.
qualcomm is a patent troll , the scourge of the mobile chip world. Id rather buy MTK chip phones than snapdragon phones anyday. Meizu, Xiaomi and other chinese phones should stop using qualcomm chips, they are only helping the big patent troll.
qualcomm is a patent troll , the scourge of the mobile chip world. Id rather buy MTK chip phones than snapdragon phones anyday. Meizu, Xiaomi and other chinese phones should stop using qualcomm chips, they are only helping the big patent troll.