It’s hard not to like the sleek look of the new Meizu Pro 6, but once you delve in to the specifications is this a step forward or a step backward compared to the previous Meizu Pro 5.
Meizu are touting the Meizu Pro 6 as the first 10 core smartphone. This is up to debate as the Zopo Speed 8 was announced at MWC this year, but it remains unavailable to buy at this time. So, yes the Pro 6 is the first 10 core you can buy but not the first 10 core phone.
Anyway, with a Helio X25 chipset, 4GB RAM, metal chassis and new 3D Press display the Pro 6 does look impressive at first glance, but is it really better than the previously launched Meizu Pro 5? Let’s take a look at the specifications.
Meizu Pro 5 vs Meizu Pro 6 Specifications
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Going over the specifications there are a few differences and a few similarities between the two, but which Meizu is the winner for you?
If we look at the Meizu Pro 5, the advantages are a larger 5.7-inch display, the Samsung Exynos chipset (some of you will see this as an advantage others won’t mind the Mediatek chip), but the main point has to be the larger 3050mAh battery.
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Then on the other hand the Meizu Pro 6 does have that 10 core Helio X25 chipset, comes with 4GB RAM has standard, and runs Flyme 5.2 based on Android 6.0.
The rest of the hardware is similar. Both phones come with either 32GB or 64GB memory, both phones have the same 5 mega-pixel front camera, and rear Sony IMX230 rear, both have fingerprint scanners and both have metal bodies (in fact the larger 5.7-inch Pro 5 is only 8g heavier than the Pro 6!).
Pricing at launch for both phones wasn’t far off either. The 3GB + 32GB version of the Pro 5 retailed at 2799 Yuan when launched while the 4GB + 64GB version was 3099 Yuan. Today’s Pro 6 launch priced the phones at 2499 Yuan for the 32GB model and 2799 Yuan for the 64GB model. Keep in mind though that Meizu are well known for cutting the pricing of older models, so expect Meizu Pro 5 prices to drop to less than the Pro 6 in the coming weeks.
Looking at the two Meizu flagships side by side I have to admit I do like the look of the new Meizu Pro 6, the ring flash is cool and 3D Press might be interesting to have in the future, but in real world situations and day to day use my head tells me the Meizu Pro 5 is a better deal with it’s larger display, bigger battery and very similar hardware and pricing.
Going over the two Meizu phones which would you chose?
Of course it is. RIP Meizu. LeTV and others will rise.
The only upgrade that the Pro 6 provides is the 3D Press (and 4GB of RAM on the 32GB variant). Really Meizu ?! How removing the MicroSD card slot and use the exact same cameras can justify the name of the phone. It should be the Pro 5S “Mini”
To be fair Meizu doesn’t often upgrade the camera between models. They tend to stick to the same sensor (or sensor family) for a few models. They take an iPhone like approach when it comes to cameras.
I would have preferred 5.5 inch.
They did a downgrade in Ram (DDR4 to DDR3).
Downgrade in Storage (UFS to eMMC)
Downgrade in battery capacity.
I would take the Pro5 over the Pro6
Spot on, even worse is using the X25 that only has 4 shader cores as opposed to the 7420 that has 8.
Even worse would be using a SoC that doesn’t have support for every network in your home country and the market where the majority of your sales happen. That’s a good way to alienate customers.
It’s a bout a whole lot more than the GPU. By using the X25 over a Exnyos, Meizu can have one model for all of China. Exnyos SoC’s don’t have support for CDMA2000 networks.
What do you think is more important to Meizu (or any business), 4 more shader cores or 150 million more customers?
Like CDMA people are going to buy a phone limited to 1x 2G? pfft hahaha… turn off your fanboi and get to reality. Exynos 7420 supported CDMA LTE using a QC modem, You can’t get 4G in the US without it.
You have literally no clue what you are talking about. Your hatred for Mediatek is causing you to say some of the dumbest things possible. China Telecom, the 3rd largest carrier in the country operates on CDMA 2000. Not including support for that would cost Meizu millions of potential customers. Using an extra modem means paying more money. Smart business don’t pay more money when they don’t have to.
Meizu isn’t officially sold in the US, their main market and about 85% of their sales come from China. Turn off your blind hatred for Mediatek and “get to reality”.
Actually you can. Try with Blue & it comes with MTK SoC’s (in US).
Will there be a Meizu MX 6 to really WOW Meizu fans this year ?
How would they wow their fans with a MX6?
Pro 6 is the higher-end line of them both.
So if there is an MX 6 the specs will be not as good as the Pro 6 ?
Exactly.
The MX line is below the Pro line.
I don’t see what they could with an MX6 as far as SoC goes. X20 is pretty much the same as X25. P10 is being used in the Note line. Maybe they are waiting for the P20?
The way things are going I think i’ll be getting the Mi 5 Pro unless someone can convince me to go for something else.
I just can’t get past that design of the Mi5. I owned every Mi(#) phone dating back to the 2s but this one is a complete letdown imo.
Hopefully they will bring back the Mi 3 design in future models, I really liked that.
What do you think about the Zuk Z2 Pro coming on April 21st ?
I am cautiously excited for it. I liked the first one a lot but felt it needed a few improvements (like any brand new phone launch).
No reason to fool ourselves: this is indeed a downgrade.
I wouldn’t have minded if they called it MX6 and not Pro6 and priced at 1799 yuan.
Meizu has totally gone nuts
I would say it is still too early to tell, need to wait for some reviews.
Even if the reviews say that it’s a great phone, which I believe it is, the point is that it’s still overpriced compared to the same Meizu (I’m not even bringing Xiaomi or LeTV here) the specs are not in line for a 2016 flagship (battery capacity, storage, OIS)
Btw, I thought that they usually use sapphire glass for the camera, am I correct? If so then even the GG3 as protection seems being a downgrade
Not sure but whatever they used on the MX5 camera lens I haven’t been that impressed with, it scratches very easily.
I don’t know where I’ve read that, I can’t find it anywhere right now.
But I’m positive that at least Xiaomi uses sapphire glass to protect the camera from scratches.
Hopefully I’ll find the source
That’s one of the very few complaints I have about the MX5, the camera lens is very easy to scratch and the fingerprint scanner can be hit or miss. Other than that it is one of the best phones I have used in a long time.
We should ask Andi or Yash if they know more about the camera lenses and if they use sapphire glass
Meizu clamis to use the following types of glass as camera lens protection:
Corning Gorilla 3 on the Pro 6, MX5, MX4, M3 Note, M2 Note, M2, Metal and M1 Note
Sapphire glass on the Pro 5 and MX4 Pro
And for the display as follows:
Corning Gorilla Glass 3 on the Pro 5, MX5, MX4 Pro, MX4, M1 Note
AGC Dragontrail/NEG T2X-1 on the M3 Note, Metal, M2 Note and M2
Wow, that was a hell of detailed answer. Thanks.
So I was right, it looks like we have a downgrade also regarding the protection of the camera.
Yes, but essentially the whole phone is pretty much a downgrade. It should not have the ”Pro” label, but ”MX” instead. Looks like they tried everything to cut the price. Price of the Pro 5 compared to the Pro 6 explains everything.
Probably got to do with the MediaTek investment.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Meizu was contributing to make people believe that Mediatek can’t stand with the big ones on the flagship segment.
They made their PRO version using a Exynos SoC and that didn’t look good for the Mediatek guys.
Now it’s like making a bigger mess while trying to fix a smaller one.
This phone is great, but as a MX6 for 1799 yuan. No, I take it back… This phone should have gone for 1999 yuan just like Xiaomi, Oneplus,LeTV… That would have also given the message that Mediatek is there, neck to neck to Qualcomm.
The battery isn’t that much of an upgrade for the Pro 5 given that one is a 5.7 inch display and the other is a 5.2 inch display. The real difference is going to come down to the X25 vs the Exnyos.
This is an incremental upgrade of the MX5, that’s the league where it belongs.
I don’t get the price and the name Pro
Between the Pro 5 and Pro 6, I would buy the MX5. (yes, MX5) ^^
That was one of the best phone of last year, and this one had the chance to follow it’s predecessor if they have priced it at 1799 yuan.
That’s the way I see it at least
I have to say I am really considering the Pro 6, just waiting on some reviews. To me it is the least disappointing of all the disappointing phones released this year. Huawei P9 is the only one that actually excites me but I just cant justify paying $8-900 for a phone. I’ll wait to see what Zuk, Nubia and OnePlus do but so far Pro 6 is in the lead.
Me too. I am on a 14 month old M1 note on Flyme 5.6.4 beta. Every thing works fine. Struggling to find a reason to pay 300-400% more for metal body, fingerprint Scan, 3d touch, antutu sixdigit epenis, etc.
Wish they made a bulkier phone with Xenon flash to make killer night photos. The rest is pure marketing I don’t buy into
If you are in the show off, splash money crowd buy a S7 edge.
If you are in the cool, money does not matter crowd, buy an Oppo.
Saphire glass camera Cover, my ass…
Start by cleaning the smudges and hold the phone steady not them long hands, auto Mode, software will fix it mode
If you are in the show off, splash money crowd buy a S7 edge.
If you are in the cool, money does not matter crowd, buy an Oppo.
Saphire glass camera Cover, my ass…
Start by cleaning the smudges and hold the phone steady not trembling hands, auto Mode, software will fix it mode
Are you ready now to agree that helio is worse or are you still going to argue that it’s better than its competitors?
Never said it was better or worse, I said it was comparable to it’s competitors which it is.
Every SoC is comparable to any other. And comparison leads to conclusion whether it’s better or worse. Mediatek is just cheaper and worse unit. You have to admit it at some point.
Every SoC is not comparable to any other. The SD410 is in no way comparable to the SD820. One is a terrible budget SoC that struggles with even the simplest of tasks, the other is one of the best chips available today. You have to admit you just hate Mediatek at some point.
Man, you just did compared SD410 and 820 XDDD
You are the one who just said “every SoC is comparable”
Yea, and you just proved it by comparing two SoCs, thank you. 🙂
Kind of like comparing the X25 to the Exnyos 8890. The X25 is the better overall chip, equal performance with better network support.
That is horrible comparation. Exunos 8890 is 3+x in size & cost per gate for FinFET is 30~35% more. You must realize how GPU actually consumes largest part of die aria then comes SRAM…
comparing two SOC at a similar price point is good.. you should not compare that is priced for mid segment with the high there will be a huge price difference.
also SD615 was comparable to MTK 6753 on price and mediatek blew them out of the park…
Profit margins that MTK is selling its products are not much smaller than those QC. You need to compare cost per gate per gate caunt per lithography process & even if you neglect software development costs you will get to a conclusion how actual difference is very small.
This is exactly why we actually need arise of Chinese semiconductor manufacturers & SoC’s.
They are just a little steep behind due to GPU technology and wireless connectivity (nobody can compete with Q’comm over connectivity, not even Apple tries it but they rather partnership with them)
Speaking of the whole SoC we are pretty neck to neck.
According to our good friend Realjjj, the GPU might not be that far behind as everyone thinks. According to him (and he actually had some sources to back it up) the SD820 GPU throttles badly after about 10 minutes of gaming to the point where any advantage it has disappears. He can explain it better.
Well, he brings sources only to back up his theories.
He’s been talking crap about Q’comm since long time, I remember long time ago saying that GPU is not needed. Now he’s bringing the long term performance to discredit both Exynos and Q’comm which both suffer of thermal throttling after long time, with the effect of a decrease of frame rate.
But he doesn’t say that they start from 60fps and then decrease to about 30 when they run hot while Mediatek starts the benchmark at 30 fps when cold.
I’m a big fan of Mediatek, but GPUs wise are behind Q’comm and they are behind Samsung with the manufacturing process.
For the rest, they are doing great and compete with the big ones.
If they release the full documentation then they might be praised also by the developers
GPU’s is something that don’t matter much to me, I have an Xbox One for games. So I really can’t comment much when it comes to that.
I don’t care either, I was just pointing where Mediatek is behind Qualcomm and Exynos.
For the rest, they are pretty neck to neck
No their aren’t. When it comes to multimedia & connectivity (WiFi and modem) they are far behind. Using ASICS that are cheaper but must lag at least one gen (usually two) behind DSP’s as they are closed circulat vs programmable.
He didn’t had any when it comes to A510, A530 is still overkill regarding power consumption for real mobile use. However their is steady advantage for Adrenos just because they are designed as a single cluster that makes them 25-35% more power/performance efficient. This won’t change anytime soon. Hopefully as the FHD 3D gaming becomes standard on mobile phones other GPU IP firms will design their single cluster solutions for that purpose. But we are far from that still.
It’s not about “connectivity” it’s about modem (it’s much easier when it comes to WiFi & mostly the same so I skip discussion about it) & their are couple of companies that make better DSP’s & there for can make & better modem in time. Like CEVA & Tensilica.
I was speaking “simple” for the audience.
When I say “wireless” didn’t want mean strictly wifi, but all the wireless communication included GSM and LTE.
That’s at least what wireless means in the US.
I leave the details to people more prepared like you
He can’t admit it, he is infected with fanboism. He is all over this page trying to defend the indefensible.
I am a fanboy of all SoC companies: Mediatek, Exnyos, Kirin, Qualcomm, Allwinner, Rockchip, Intel, AMD, Nvida even Leadcore. Unlike you I don’t hate a SoC just because it is from a certain company, every company listed above has had some great SoC’s and some terrible SoC’s.
Amlogic isn’t bad, you missed it
Haha there is a few I missed:
Texas Instruments
Apple
Broadcom
Imagination/Power VR
Sharp
Invensense
MStar (although I think they were purchased by Mediatek or Qualcomm can’t remember which)
Spreadtrum
Telechips
Marvell
Cyruss
Omnivision
Sony
Some of those make specific components. But the point is I don’t play favorites with components themselves I like them all. I only play favorites with phone brands from China lol.
You forgot upcoming Fury from the east the Spreadtrum. SC9860 looks very good in my head enough CPU power, good enough GPU, CEVA DSP’s both for Multimedia & modem & based on 16nm FF+. Actually based on real usage scenarios it sounds wonderful but we will see how will it run.
What about the DDR4 ram used with the Pro5 and DDR3 ram used in the pro 6?
Hi Balco, do you still using mx5? The mx5 have Flyme 5 with Android 6?
I am upset with my RM Note 3.. Don’t have Miui with Android 5.1 or 6 :-/
It is running 5.1 at the moment but I read somewhere that it would be upgraded to 6.0 after the Pro 6 launched.
MIUI 7.2 (available for RN3) is android 5.1… And Xiaomi will soon release MIUI based on android 6 for a couple of phones (not RN3 yet, don’t count we’ll see android 6 before summer -at the best). Anyway, what are you upset about? Love my RN3 (i have the SD version).
Friend, only RN3 with snapdragon have android 5.1
I was asking to Balco because our phones have the same processor, and the guys in xiaomi forum was saying is mediatek fault, something about don’t release the kernel for upgrade.
I particularly don’t believe in that, so android 7 are right in the corner and I still stuck in android 5. 0.2
You will get android 6 (and so will i). The timeline however is unknown! As for MIUI 7.2 the MTK version of RN3 (the one you have) has reached 7.2.5 stable rom (which is android 5.1):
http://en.miui.com/thread-260925-1-1.html
What rom are you on? If you’re on (any) official you should have OTA updates to 7.2 anyway!
The snapdragon version (the one i have) has the upper hand as it concerns kernels/development as it already has released kernel sources. On the other hand the Xiaomi community has released several roms for MTK version (and the MTK version is easier to flash with SP flash tool).
Why would this matter? Both screens have 1920×1080 pixels meaning both GPUs have to process the same amount of pixels. Screen size doesn’t effect performance, because the number of pixels stay/are the same. Of course, the PPI differs, but the same amount of pixels need to be processed on both phones. However, correct me if i’m wrong…
Screen size won’t affect performance but it will you use more power. The larger the screen the more power it needs.
Now, if think about it, makes sense.
Also it can depend on what type of display they use. The newer AMOLED displays from Samsung are made to be more efficient than older ones.
The old one on Pro 5 is the exact one from Note 4 & it’s pretty much good & efficient.
It’s odd that they labeled it Pro. They should have called it Elite or something stupid like that and replace the MX line.
The names are so watered down at this point it doesn’t really matter. When companies like Oukitel and HomTom are using the word “Pro” on phones with MT6735 it pretty much loses all meaning.
Of course it is. RIP Meizu. LeTV and others will rise.
The only upgrade that the Pro 6 provides is the 3D Press (and 4GB of RAM on the 32GB variant). Really Meizu ?! How removing the MicroSD card slot and use the exact same cameras can justify the name of the phone. It should be the Pro 5S “Mini”
To be fair Meizu doesn’t often upgrade the camera between models. They tend to stick to the same sensor (or sensor family) for a few models. They take an iPhone like approach when it comes to cameras.
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I would have preferred 5.5 inch.
They did a downgrade in Ram (DDR4 to DDR3).
Downgrade in Storage (UFS to eMMC)
Downgrade in battery capacity.
I would take the Pro5 over the Pro6
Spot on, even worse is using the X25 that only has 4 shader cores as opposed to the 7420 that has 8.
Even worse would be using a SoC that doesn’t have support for every network in your home country and the market where the majority of your sales happen. That’s a good way to alienate customers.
It’s about a whole lot more than the GPU. By using the X25 over a Exnyos, Meizu can have one model for all of China. Exnyos SoC’s don’t have support for CDMA2000 networks.
What do you think is more important to Meizu (or any business), 4 more shader cores or 150 million more customers?
Like CDMA people are going to buy a phone limited to 1x 2G? pfft hahaha… turn off your fanboi and get to reality. Exynos 7420 supported CDMA LTE using a QC modem, You can’t get 4G in the US without it.
You have literally no clue what you are talking about. Your hatred for Mediatek is causing you to say some of the dumbest things possible. China Telecom, the 3rd largest carrier in the country operates on CDMA 2000. Not including support for that would cost Meizu millions of potential customers. Using an extra modem means paying more money. Smart business don’t pay more money when they don’t have to.
Meizu isn’t officially sold in the US, their main market and about 90% of their sales come from China. Turn off your blind hatred for Mediatek and “get to reality”. When Apple entered the Chinese market they had to completely modify the iPhone to support CDMA 2000. Samsung has to use the SD820 because their own chips don’t natively support CDMA 2000.
Actually you can. Try with Blue & it comes with MTK SoC’s (in US).
Will there be a Meizu MX 6 to really WOW Meizu fans this year ?
How would they wow their fans with a MX6?
Pro 6 is the higher-end line of them both.
So if there is an MX 6 the specs will be not as good as the Pro 6 ?
Exactly.
The MX line is below the Pro line.
I don’t see what they could with an MX6 as far as SoC goes. X20 is pretty much the same as X25. P10 is being used in the Note line. Maybe they are waiting for the P20?
The way things are going I think i’ll be getting the Mi 5 Pro unless someone can convince me to go for something else.
I just can’t get past that design of the Mi5. I owned every Mi(#) phone dating back to the 2s but this one is a complete letdown imo.
Hopefully they will bring back the Mi 3 design in future models, I really liked that.
What do you think about the Zuk Z2 Pro coming on April 21st ?
I am cautiously excited for it. I liked the first one a lot but felt it needed a few improvements (like any brand new phone launch).
No reason to fool ourselves: this is indeed a downgrade.
I wouldn’t have minded if they called it MX6 and not Pro6 and priced at 1799 yuan.
Meizu has totally gone nuts
I would say it is still too early to tell, need to wait for some reviews.
Even if the reviews say that it’s a great phone, which I believe it is, the point is that it’s still overpriced compared to the same Meizu (I’m not even bringing Xiaomi or LeTV here) the specs are not in line for a 2016 flagship (battery capacity, storage, OIS)
Btw, I thought that they usually use sapphire glass for the camera, am I correct? If so then even the GG3 as protection seems being a downgrade
Not sure but whatever they used on the MX5 camera lens I haven’t been that impressed with, it scratches very easily.
I don’t know where I’ve read that, I can’t find it anywhere right now.
But I’m positive that at least Xiaomi uses sapphire glass to protect the camera from scratches.
Hopefully I’ll find the source
That’s one of the very few complaints I have about the MX5, the camera lens is very easy to scratch and the fingerprint scanner can be hit or miss. Other than that it is one of the best phones I have used in a long time.
Probably got to do with the MediaTek investment.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Meizu was contributing to make people believe that Mediatek can’t stand with the big ones on the flagship segment.
They made their PRO version using a Exynos SoC and that didn’t look good for the Mediatek guys.
Now it’s like making a bigger mess while trying to fix a smaller one.
This phone is great, but as a MX6 for 1799 yuan. No, I take it back… This phone should have gone for 1999 yuan just like Xiaomi, Oneplus,LeTV… That would have also given the message that Mediatek is there, neck to neck to Qualcomm.
We should ask Andi or Yash if they know more about the camera lenses and if they use sapphire glass
Meizu clamis to use the following types of glass as camera lens protection:
Corning Gorilla 3 on the Pro 6, MX5, MX4, M3 Note, M2 Note, M2, Metal and M1 Note
Sapphire glass on the Pro 5 and MX4 Pro
And for the display as follows:
Corning Gorilla Glass 3 on the Pro 5, MX5, MX4 Pro, MX4, M1 Note
AGC Dragontrail/NEG T2X-1 on the M3 Note, Metal, M2 Note and M2
Wow, that was a hell of detailed answer. Thanks.
So I was right, it looks like we have a downgrade also regarding the protection of the camera.
Yes, but essentially the whole phone is pretty much a downgrade. It should not have the ”Pro” label, but ”MX” instead. Looks like they tried everything to cut the price. Price of the Pro 5 compared to the Pro 6 explains everything.
The battery isn’t that much of an upgrade for the Pro 5 given that one is a 5.7 inch display and the other is a 5.2 inch display. The real difference is going to come down to the X25 vs the Exnyos.
This is an incremental upgrade of the MX5, that’s the league where it belongs.
I don’t get the price and the name Pro
Between the Pro 5 and Pro 6, I would buy the MX5. (yes, MX5) ^^
That was one of the best phone of last year, and this one had the chance to follow it’s predecessor if they have priced it at 1799 yuan.
That’s the way I see it at least
Are you ready now to agree that helio is worse or are you still going to argue that it’s better than its competitors?
What about the DDR4 ram used with the Pro5 and DDR3 ram used in the pro 6?
Hi Balco, do you still using mx5? The mx5 have Flyme 5 with Android 6?
I am upset with my RM Note 3.. Don’t have Miui with Android 5.1 or 6 :-/
Never said it was better or worse, I said it was comparable to it’s competitors which it is.
It is running 5.1 at the moment but I read somewhere that it would be upgraded to 6.0 after the Pro 6 launched.
They are just a little step behind due to GPU technology and wireless connectivity (nobody can compete with Q’comm over connectivity, not even Apple tries it but they rather partnership with them)
Speaking of the whole SoC we are pretty neck to neck.
He can’t admit it, he is infected with fanboism. He is all over this page trying to defend the indefensible.
MIUI 7.2 (available for RN3) is android 5.1… And Xiaomi will soon release MIUI based on android 6 for a couple of phones (not RN3 yet, don’t count we’ll see android 6 before summer -at the best). Anyway, what are you upset about? Love my RN3 (i have the SD version).
Every SoC is comparable to any other. And comparison leads to conclusion whether it’s better or worse. Mediatek is just cheaper and worse unit. You have to admit it at some point.
Every SoC is not comparable to any other. The SD410 is in no way comparable to the SD820. One is a terrible budget SoC that struggles with even the simplest of tasks, the other is one of the best chips available today. You have to admit you just hate Mediatek at some point.
Man, you just did compared SD410 and 820 XDDD
You are the one who just said “every SoC is comparable”
Yea, and you just proved it by comparing two SoCs, thank you. 🙂
I am a fanboy of all SoC companies: Mediatek, Exnyos, Kirin, Qualcomm, Allwinner, Rockchip, Intel, AMD, Nvida even Leadcore. Unlike you I don’t hate a SoC just because it is from a certain company, every company listed above has had some great SoC’s and some terrible SoC’s.
Kind of like comparing the X25 to the Exnyos 8890. The X25 is the better overall chip, equal performance with better network support.
comparing two SOC at a similar price point is good.. you should not compare that is priced for mid segment with the high there will be a huge price difference.
also SD615 was comparable to MTK 6753 on price and mediatek blew them out of the park…
Why would this matter? Both screens have 1920×1080 pixels meaning both GPUs have to process the same amount of pixels. Screen size doesn’t effect performance, because the number of pixels stay/are the same. Of course, the PPI differs, but the same amount of pixels need to be processed on both phones. However, correct me if i’m wrong…
Amlogic isn’t bad, you missed it
Screen size won’t affect performance but it will you use more power. The larger the screen the more power it needs.
Haha there is a few I missed:
Texas Instruments
Apple
Broadcom
Imagination/Power VR
Sharp
Invensense
MStar (although I think they were purchased by Mediatek or Qualcomm can’t remember which)
Spreadtrum
Telechips
Marvell
Cyruss
Omnivision
Sony
Some of those make specific components. But the point is I don’t play favorites with components themselves I like them all. I only play favorites with phone brands from China lol.
Now, if think about it, makes sense.
Also it can depend on what type of display they use. The newer AMOLED displays from Samsung are made to be more efficient than older ones.
According to our good friend Realjjj, the GPU might not be that far behind as everyone thinks. According to him (and he actually had some sources to back it up) the SD820 GPU throttles badly after about 10 minutes of gaming to the point where any advantage it has disappears. He can explain it better.
Well, he brings sources only to back up his theories.
He’s been talking crap about Q’comm since long time, I remember long time ago saying that GPU is not needed. Now he’s bringing the long term performance to discredit both Exynos and Q’comm which both suffer of thermal throttling after long time, with the effect of a decrease of frame rate.
But he doesn’t say that they start from 60fps and then decrease to about 30 when they run hot while Mediatek starts the benchmark at 30 fps when cold.
I’m a big fan of Mediatek, but GPUs wise are behind Q’comm and they are behind Samsung with the manufacturing process.
For the rest, they are doing great and compete with the big ones.
If they release the full documentation then they might be praised also by the developers
Friend, only RN3 with snapdragon have android 5.1
I was asking to Balco because our phones have the same processor, and the guys in xiaomi forum was saying is mediatek fault, something about don’t release the kernel for upgrade.
I particularly don’t believe in that, so android 7 are right in the corner and I still stuck in android 5. 0.2
You will get android 6 (and so will i). The timeline however is unknown! As for MIUI 7.2 the MTK version of RN3 (the one you have) has reached 7.2.5 stable rom (which is android 5.1):
http://en.miui.com/thread-260925-1-1.html
What rom are you on? If you’re on (any) official you should have OTA updates to 7.2 anyway!
The snapdragon version (the one i have) has the upper hand as it concerns kernels/development as it already has released kernel sources. On the other hand the Xiaomi community has released several roms for MTK version (and the MTK version is easier to flash with SP flash tool).
GPU’s is something that don’t matter much to me, I have an Xbox One for games. So I really can’t comment much when it comes to that.
I have to say I am really considering the Pro 6, just waiting on some reviews. To me it is the least disappointing of all the disappointing phones released this year. Huawei P9 is the only one that actually excites me but I just cant justify paying $8-900 for a phone. I’ll wait to see what Zuk, Nubia and OnePlus do but so far Pro 6 is in the lead.
I don’t care either, I was just pointing where Mediatek is behind Qualcomm and Exynos.
For the rest, they are pretty neck to neck
Me too. I am on a 14 month old M1 note on Flyme 5.6.4 beta. Every thing works fine. Struggling to find a reason to pay 300-400% more for metal body, fingerprint Scan, 3d touch, antutu sixdigit epenis, etc.
Wish they made a bulkier phone with Xenon flash to make killer night photos. The rest is pure marketing I don’t buy into
Double Sorry
If you are in the show off, splash money crowd buy a S7 edge.
If you are in the cool, money does not matter crowd, buy an Oppo.
Saphire glass camera Cover, my ass…
Start by cleaning the smudges and hold the phone steady not trembling hands, auto Mode, software will fix it mode
The old one on Pro 5 is the exact one from Note 4 & it’s pretty much good & efficient.
You forgot upcoming Fury from the east the Spreadtrum. SC9860 looks very good in my head enough CPU power, good enough GPU, CEVA DSP’s both for Multimedia & modem & based on 16nm FF+. Actually based on real usage scenarios it sounds wonderful but we will see how will it run.
It’s not about “connectivity” it’s about modem (it’s much easier when it comes to WiFi & mostly the same so I skip discussion about it) & their are couple of companies that make better DSP’s & there for can make & better modem in time. Like CEVA & Tensilica.
He didn’t had any when it comes to A510, A530 is still overkill regarding power consumption for real mobile use. However their is steady advantage for Adrenos just because they are designed as a single cluster that makes them 25-35% more power/performance efficient. This won’t change anytime soon. Hopefully as the FHD 3D gaming becomes standard on mobile phones other GPU IP firms will design their single cluster solutions for that purpose. But we are far from that still.
No their aren’t. When it comes to multimedia & connectivity (WiFi and modem) they are far behind. Using ASICS that are cheaper but must lag at least one gen (usually two) behind DSP’s as they are closed circulat vs programmable.
Profit margins that MTK is selling its products are not much smaller than those QC. You need to compare cost per gate per gate caunt per lithography process & even if you neglect software development costs you will get to a conclusion how actual difference is very small.
This is exactly why we actually need arise of Chinese semiconductor manufacturers & SoC’s.
That is horrible comparation. Exunos 8890 is 3+x in size & cost per gate for FinFET is 30~35% more. You must realize how GPU actually consumes largest part of die aria then comes SRAM…
I was speaking “simple” for the audience.
When I say “wireless” didn’t want mean strictly wifi, but all the wireless communication included GSM and LTE.
That’s at least what wireless means in the US.
I leave the details to people more prepared like you
It’s odd that they labeled it Pro. They should have called it Elite or something stupid like that and replace the MX line. The Pro should have stayed big, this one is Meizu Fancy Pants (lol).
The names are so watered down at this point it doesn’t really matter. When companies like Oukitel and HomTom are using the word “Pro” on phones with MT6735 it pretty much loses all meaning.
Disappointed and totally not interested, I’d rather have a PRO5 or even might I dare say… a Oppo R9.
Or Xiaomi Mi5 Pro ?
Have to agree that it’s a downgrade.
The battery is the kicker.
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M5 is too big
Screen size, RAM performance, storage performance, and battery capacity have been downgraded in the Pro 6, so if any of those are important to you, then get the Pro 5 (probably for less $$$ also).
Also GPU performance went down like 50%
More like 30%.
You always need to say more to make it look even worse man !
I just try to be as honest as I can.
Why is Smaller display a Downgrade?
Smaller screen is an advantage of 6 for me… And you just can’t compare those 2 by that.
Smaller battery is logical when phone is smaller, and it’s screen don’t need that much power as one one MX5, so capacity number doesn’t mean a thing here.
So, i would go with MX6… But one other thing is problem here and that is a name. This “PRO” just shouldn’t be here… It’s SoC not better in any case from MX5, so it just can’t be a PRO model.
If it is named “just” MX6, then it would be perfect (at least on papir, but will wait for reviews, especially with my mind focused on battery life, which is a reason for me not to buy Mi5, S7 or G5)
Then try with Galaxy A9/A9 Pro.
Disappointed and totally not interested, I’d rather have a PRO5 or even might I dare say… a Oppo R9.
Or Xiaomi Mi5 Pro ?
Have to agree that it’s a downgrade.
The battery is the kicker.
In terms of AUDIO… you know… Pro 5 was the best sounding smartphone… V10 was very close, and Vivo phones just after them…
Pro 5 just destroys Pro 6 in terms of audio-spec. It’s just playing in another galaxy…
Now I can only still hope to see nubia and letv available in EU.
M5 is too big
I think that Meizu should have called the Pro 6 their mini. I have the Pro 5 and can’t see it being beaten by the Pro 6. For me, the Eyxnos processor is great, why change? Also, I think force touch is a bit of a gimmick, not something I want, especially if it adds cost and weight. I think I would take the M3 Note over the Pro 6 — better value for money and quite good enough for my needs. I’m hoping to see a 5.5 inch MX6 this year.
You think it will come ?
Mx6 is already in pre order, it has quite the same specs of the pro 6 but it also has a 16gb version and only a Hello X20
source….?
You can find it in many Chinese retailers for pre-order like this one:
http://www.gizok.com/meizu-mx6.html
Many resellers will do this. They list phones for preorder based on speculation and rumor. Meizu has said nothing about an MX6 and there have been no rumors. The picture they used on the website you linked too is the MX5 and the specs are based on that phone. Never believe a reseller when you see something for pre-order unless it has already been confirmed by a reliable source.
That doesn’t mean there won’t be an MX6, in all likelihood they will launch one around June/July but I doubt it will have the X20, instead it will probably have the P20.
Screen size, RAM performance, storage performance, and battery capacity have been downgraded in the Pro 6, so if any of those are important to you, then get the Pro 5 (probably for less $$$ also).
The jury’s still out on CPU, GPS, and Wi-Fi performance, and also heat management to reduce throttling. Also, as balcobomber25 mentioned battery could be a wash since the Pro 5 has a larger display.
Also GPU performance went down like 50%
More like 30%.
You always need to say more to make it look even worse man !
I just try to be as honest as I can.
Why is Smaller display a Downgrade?
hou remember this article? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/meizu-pro-6-tipped-to-feature-samsungs-exynos-8870-soc-783402
exynos 8870 for other meizu pro 6?
using Pro 5 and not interested in Pro 6 with such specs.
if Pro 6 would have improved camera (like 12mp on Samy), 4100mAh battery as M3 note, then yes
What is improved about the sensor on the S7 vs this? More specific what is the difference between the IMX 260 (S7) and the IMX 230 (Pro 6)?
IMX260 is physically larger and has a larger 1.4u micron pixel sensor and a lower F1.7 aperture taking in almost twice as much more light as the 230 or 240. Throw in Samsungs Dual Pixel system for insane focusing speeds and It crushes the 230’s f2.2 aperture, smaller sensor with smaller pixels in almost every way possible. In low light it will be a painful massacre, the 230 has no chance. Just really pissed that meizu went with this dated sensor in their flagship, makes absolutely no sense.
The IMX 260 and IMX 230 dont have an aperture. Aperture is part of the lens not part of the sensor. The IMX 230 has been used with apertures ranging from f/1.9 to f/2.4.
Mate you’re talking about smartphones… As a old saying of the photographers says – ‘your camera is worth as much as your lens’.
You can’t beat the physics. For serious photography you need DSLR with proper lens, preferably canon’s or nikkor’s one.
I have a Cannon DSLR but I use lenses from Sigma.
Yeah, surely the cheaper solution and in many cases almost as good as original ones. Good Canon’s or Nikkor’s lens costs more than all those flagship phones with ‘4k quality photos’.
You just can’t beat the laws of optics.
This is true but at that same time I need a good camera phone as well. It’s not always ideal to carry around my DSLR + 5 lenses and a tripod. I like to take a lot of pictures wherever I am so I need a really good camera on my phone. None will ever compete with my Cannon, the sensors are too small and the optics are nowhere near as advanced but I have used some very good ones.
Yeah, for some fast-photos these are great. I’m using a little bit old LG L90 now and it has suprisingly nice quality of photos so I guess the present smartphones have even better ones.
What I ment was that most people think and also sometimes manufacturers present their camaras as super-hiper-quality stuff and people think they get something out of this world when the truth is that my old Nikon D40 with kit lens makes better photos than all of them. Not mentioning Canon 7D which I also use…
True, you can’t beat the laws of optics, but there’s more physics to a camera than just optics. Granted, a proper DSLR camera will be more versatile and have a wider range of usage than a smartphone, but two digital cameras with the same lens can vary significantly in their capabilities, depending on their sensor.
Smaller screen is an advantage of 6 for me… And you just can’t compare those 2 by that.
Smaller battery is logical when phone is smaller, and it’s screen don’t need that much power as one one MX5, so capacity number doesn’t mean a thing here.
So, i would go with MX6… But one other thing is problem here and that is a name. This “PRO” just shouldn’t be here… It’s SoC not better in any case from MX5, so it just can’t be a PRO model.
If it is named “just” MX6, then it would be perfect (at least on papir, but will wait for reviews, especially with my mind focused on battery life, which is a reason for me not to buy Mi5, S7 or G5)
Then try with Galaxy A9/A9 Pro.
wow
In terms of AUDIO… you know… Pro 5 was the best sounding smartphone… V10 was very close, and Vivo phones just after them…
Pro 5 just destroys Pro 6 in terms of audio-spec. It’s just playing in another galaxy…
Now I can only still hope to see nubia and letv available in EU.
I think that Meizu should have called the Pro 6 their mini. I have the Pro 5 and can’t see it being beaten by the Pro 6. For me, the Eyxnos processor is great, why change? Also, I think force touch is a bit of a gimmick, not something I want, especially if it adds cost and weight. I think I would take the M3 Note over the Pro 6 — better value for money and quite good enough for my needs. I’m hoping to see a 5.5 inch MX6 this year.
You think it will come ?
Mx6 is already in pre order, it has quite the same specs of the pro 6 but it also has a 16gb version and only a Hello X20
source….?
You can find it in many Chinese retailers for pre-order like this one:
http://www.gizok.com/meizu-mx6.html
Many resellers will do this. They list phones for preorder based on speculation and rumor. Meizu has said nothing about an MX6 and there have been no rumors. The picture they used on the website you linked too is the MX5 and the specs are based on that phone. Never believe a reseller when you see something for pre-order unless it has already been confirmed by a reliable source.
That doesn’t mean there won’t be an MX6, in all likelihood they will launch one around June/July but I doubt it will have the X20, instead it will probably have the P20.
An example of the above is the Z11 Mini, which launched today. It is still listed on their site with the wrong SoC:
http://www.gizok.com/nubia-z11-mini.html
hou remember this article? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/meizu-pro-6-tipped-to-feature-samsungs-exynos-8870-soc-783402
exynos 8870 for other meizu pro 6?
using Pro 5 and not interested in Pro 6 with such specs.
if Pro 6 would have improved camera (like 12mp on Samy), 4100mAh battery as M3 note, then yes
What is improved about the sensor on the S7 vs this? More specific what is the difference between the IMX 260 (S7) and the IMX 230 (Pro 6)?
IMX260 is physically larger and has a larger 1.4u micron pixel sensor and a lower F1.7 aperture taking in almost twice as much more light as the 230 or 240. Throw in Samsungs Dual Pixel system for insane focusing speeds and It crushes the 230’s f2.2 aperture, smaller sensor with smaller pixels in almost every way possible. In low light it will be a painful massacre, the 230 has no chance. Just really pissed that meizu went with this sensor in their flagship, makes absolutely no sense.
The IMX 260 and IMX 230 dont have an aperture. Aperture is part of the lens not part of the sensor. The IMX 230 has been used with apertures ranging from f/1.9 to f/2.4.
Mate you’re talking about smartphones… As a old saying of the photographers says – ‘your camera is worth as much as your lens’.
You can’t beat the physics. For serious photography you need DSLR with proper lens, preferably canon’s or nikkor’s one.
I have a Cannon DSLR but I use lenses from Sigma.
Yeah, surely the cheaper solution and in many cases almost as good as original ones. Good Canon’s or Nikkor’s lens costs more than all those flagship phones with ‘4k quality photos’.
You just can’t beat the laws of optics.
This is true but at that same time I need a good camera phone as well. It’s not always ideal to carry around my DSLR + 5 lenses and a tripod. I like to take a lot of pictures wherever I am so I need a really good camera on my phone. None will ever compete with my Cannon, the sensors are too small and the optics are nowhere near as advanced but I have used some very good ones.
Yeah, for some fast-photos these are great. I’m using a little bit old LG L90 now and it has suprisingly nice quality of photos so I guess the present smartphones have even better ones.
What I ment was that most people think and also sometimes manufacturers present their camaras as super-hiper-quality stuff and people think they get something out of this world when the truth is that my old Nikon D40 with kit lens makes better photos than all of them. Not mentioning Canon 7D which I also use…
True, you can’t beat the laws of optics, but there’s more physics to a camera than just optics. Granted, a proper DSLR camera will be more versatile and have a wider range of usage than a smartphone, but two digital cameras with the same lens can vary significantly in their capabilities, depending on their sensor.
Man even Apple doesn’t do this their fanbase and they would literally buy anything. Mediatek is great for low-end or mid-range phones. But releasing your top flagship for the year with a mediatek soc, I can’t get behind that.
If Apple had to choose between two SoC’s (they don’t because they make their own) one which had full network support for China and the other which required a separate modem. They would choose the latter, because a separate modem means it costs them slightly more which means they can charge the iSheep an extra $200 (for a $20 upgrade)!
You’re right Apple wouldn’t do this to their fanbase.
They could go with the first option and still sell it for more. However my main point is that they never release a new flagship with weaker specifications.
Apple will marginally increase the specs do the iSheep think they are getting a much better phone. Sometimes they will keep the same exact specs. As for Meizu and their choice of SoC it remains to be seen. On paper the x25 is an upgrade over the Exnyos 7420, whether it is as efficient as the 7420 remains to be seen.
I think this PRO 6 isn’t the 2016 flagship for Meizu, this is the successor of the MX5. I think we will see a PRO 6 Plus or something, with the new exynos chip that will be the real Meizu’s flagship. Also the price is lower of the PRO 5 and it support my theory.
wow
Definetly step back as GPU power is way too down while CPU power is enought even with MT6580 (so exynos in Pro 5 is enough).
6580 struggles with normal usage.
Man even Apple doesn’t do this their fanbase and they would literally buy anything. Mediatek is great for low-end or mid-range phones. But releasing your top flagship for the year with a mediatek soc, I can’t get behind that.
If Apple had to choose between two SoC’s (they don’t because they make their own) one which had full network support for China and the other which required a separate modem. They would choose the latter, because a separate modem means it costs them slightly more which means they can charge the iSheep an extra $200 (for a $20 upgrade)!
You’re right Apple wouldn’t do this to their fanbase.
Apple will marginally increase the specs do the iSheep think they are getting a much better phone. Sometimes they will keep the same exact specs. As for Meizu and their choice of SoC it remains to be seen. On paper the x25 is an upgrade over the Exnyos 7420, whether it is as efficient as the 7420 remains to be seen.
I think this PRO 6 isn’t the 2016 flagship for Meizu, this is the successor of the MX5. I think we will see a PRO 6 Plus or something, with the new exynos chip that will be the real Meizu’s flagship. Also the price is lower of the PRO 5 and it support my theory.
Definetly step back as GPU power is way too down while CPU power is enought even with MT6580 (so exynos in Pro 5 is enough).
6580 struggles with normal usage.
weak battery
no card slots when every other company but the insane one like xiaomi has one now.
bye meizu
Have you personally tested the battery and can say without question it is weak?
And Nexus phones don’t have an SD card slot either.
I can say without question that the battery is weak compared to its competition. Its size is objectively smaller.
And Nexus phone set the world in fire in term of sales.
Really, why do I even still bother replying you lol.
So everything is decided solely by specs and not by execution?
Xiaomi sets the world on fire in terms of sales, they are one of the top 5 selling phone companies in the world. So is Apple, who also doesn’t use SD cards.
weak battery
no card slots when every other company but the insane one like xiaomi has one now.
bye meizu
Have you personally tested the battery and can say without question it is weak?
And Nexus phones don’t have an SD card slot either.
I can say without question that the battery is weak compared to its competition. Its size is objectively smaller.
And Nexus phone set the world in fire in term of sales.
Really, why do I even still bother replying you lol.
So everything is decided solely by specs and not by execution? Why even bother with reviews of phones then since we can just look at the spec sheet and determine how good every phone is?
Xiaomi sets the world on fire in terms of sales, they are one of the top 5 selling phone companies in the world. So is Apple, who also doesn’t use SD cards. What was your point exactly with sales? I guess that backfired on you.
Is possible that we could get a review before we start calling this phone a right off. So many times people look at spec sheets and say wow that must be a great phone. And a review comes out and its crap. personally I have always thought that real world usage is the most important thing yes the battery does look small but lets just wait and see. I am just hoping that the software good for me that the area that Meizu really need to work on.
As I pointed out to someone else the Gionee S7 has a very similar setup,with a 5.2 inch 1080P display, Mediatek SoC and a 2700mAh. That phone has very good battery life for that size battery. In my testing I got a 1.5 days on the battery with normal usage.
Is possible that we could get a review before we start calling this phone a right off. So many times people look at spec sheets and say wow that must be a great phone. And a review comes out and its crap. personally I have always thought that real world usage is the most important thing yes the battery does look small but lets just wait and see. I am just hoping that the software good for me that the area that Meizu really need to work on.
As I pointed out to someone else the Gionee S7 has a very similar setup,with a 5.2 inch 1080P display, Mediatek SoC and a 2700mAh. That phone has very good battery life for that size battery. In my testing I got a 1.5 days on the battery with normal usage.
Say what you want, but damn it’s beautiful!
Say what you want, but damn it’s beautiful!
I don’t pay that price for late notification!
I don’t pay that price for late notification!
“the advantages are a larger 5.7-inch display” Why is this an advantage to you? if bigger display is advantage, than buy smart TV and connect it with your smartphone.
For example because as people age their sight gets worse?
“the advantages are a larger 5.7-inch display” Why is this an advantage to you? if bigger display is advantage, than buy smart TV and connect it with your smartphone.
For example because as people age their sight gets worse?
Pro 6 does not support sd cards while pro 5 supports. Pro 6 uses old and slower lpddr3 type rams while pro 5 uses lpddr4. Sorry meizu pro 6 seems a downgrade to me and those are deal breaker for me.
Pro 6 does not support sd cards while pro 5 supports. Pro 6 uses old and slower lpddr3 type rams while pro 5 uses lpddr4. Sorry meizu pro 6 seems a downgrade to me and those are deal breaker for me.
MEDIATEK = BATTERY BURNER and less performance overall.
That, with the smaller, non-removable, battery makes the phone nigh obsolete unless you plan running around all day with a charger pack around your waist.
MEDIATEK = BATTERY BURNER and less performance overall.
That, with the smaller, non-removable, battery makes the phone nigh obsolete unless you plan running around all day with a charger pack around your waist.
Also, no microSD expansion cards.
You know, the cards where you KEEP YOUR STUFF INSTEAD OF DEVICE MEMORY so when a phone goes fried, as they usually do within a year or two (go planned obsolescence), you don’t LOSE EVERYTHING and can easily shift it to a new phone without much hassle.
Pro 6 is easily a STEP BACK.